Poor Unfortunate Soul Analysis – Main Show – 270

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Main Show

Episode Number: 270

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Poseidon, not Triton

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Hook learns from the savior

Hook and Poseidon parallels

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From Chris Tipton

Wow what a spectacular episode. The show is getting better and better each week. Im Lovin’ it!!
Before I begin I wanted to throw my hat in the ring as it were about the “plot holes and inconsistencies.” I feel like people need to calm down about this. There hasn’t been anything major in my opinion. This show is 4 seasons deep. Its, bound to happen. I say just let it be and enjoy the show for what it is. Now, off the soapbox and on to my points

Regina speaking through snow was so good!! I laughed so hard at that!!!

Belle continues to dissapoint. They practically spelled it out for her and she still couldn’t connect the dots!! Shes a far cry from s1 Belle.

They continue to cheapen portals. In s1 we were led to believe all there was was Magic beans. Not so now. I cant even count all the ways they’ve revealed since!

I like the turn they took with Emma. Saying Gold wants to turn her completely dark for good makes a lot more sense sense then just saying she has the potential for great darkness or light.

August was so good in this episode. I loved getting a reference to the dragon from s2. Hopefully he’ll play into this somehow. I loved the inclusion of August’s built in lie detector. The effects were great! Cruelly face when Rump turned August into wood was priceless. It was questioned if they would go full torture mode on a family show and they did. Rump threatening to burn his face off was super dark! I love that were getting more about the author. The sorcerer trapping him in the book makes sense, but why? I still say the door is in Jefferson hat. The hat is in Story broke after all. Spencer did burn it so that’s a problem but I’m sure they can find a solution.

Ursulas Backstory / Redemption
It was cool getting to see Killian working for Pan again. I think they referenced every major arc in this episode. Poseidon was a great character, and im glad they didn’t just call him Triton. The Disney force was already strong enough with this episode. Speaking of disney, i loved how Ursulas story paralleled Ariels from the movie. Its amazing how they managed to make me go from not giving a crap about Ursula to loving her the next episode. Everything that happened to her was truly cruel and made me sympathize with her whole heartedly. I wonder who the Pirate was that killed her mom. Blackbeard perhaps? It was nice to get the correlation between the ursula Goddess we saw in s3 and this one. Im so glad they redeemed her without killing her, although im surprised it was done so early. Her reconciling with her father was one of my all time favorite moments and brought me to tears. Well done!! I wonder if well see her again.

This was a phenomenal episode. 9.9/10 leather pants

My fb says cruelly, i meant Cruella’ lol

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From Trace

Hi Colleen and Jeff, another fun and enjoyable episode.

Loved the Ursula/Little Mermaid/Greek Mythology mash up. I’ve been humming the mermaid song all week. Poseidon being her father was very cool, and using parts of the original story like the mermaids summoning sailors with their singing. Do you think we’ll see Ursula again? We didn’t see her be evil at all, yet she was banished from the sea. Her mother was killed by a pirate…Blackbeard? Maybe the same will happen with Cruella? Back story, happy ending, then adios muchacha. Then the focus will be getting Maleficent’s baby back. All 3 Villainesses getting their happy endings this arc. Which hopefully means they will be back and join the good guys against Rumple. He doesn’t deserve a happy ending…YET. He has a lot of work to do to deserve it first.

Side note: I am so torn. The reason I fell in love with this show was Belle and Rumple. My nickname for my husband is “beast” before this show even started because no one sees the real him but me, and many wonder why I have stayed with him so long, but he loves me and I love him and I get to see the man no one else does. When this story arc was established and he was her “beast”, it really did hit home for me. I have hope they will work this all out, but she has a lot of forgiveness to accept. And I understood why she did what she did and how she’s trying to find some inner peace with Will.

Back to it: I believe that her and Will are rebounding and will end up helping each other and becoming close friends like Alice was to him. I am so intrigued on how Will fits into this whole story. Ok, So…Belle is worse at keeping secrets than Snow, but nice that they didn’t drag this plot out, and they all know Rumple is back. I really hope Hook was Hook when Ursula was she was spilling his plan. All the scenes with August were great, I was so hoping we’d see the nose come in to play and was not disappointed. It seemed like Regina was protecting him and I liked seeing her remain strong. The scene in the cabin with Ursula was awesome, the Scooby gang showed up and did good- nothing better than a frying pan K.O. delivered so well by Bandit Snow. All we needed was flying little puppies over Cruella’s head after she got knocked out. And, Oh My…that scene with Hook and Emma when she finally realized she was his happy ending and they kissed with that single tear on her cheek…(insert a bit of boo-hooing here). I am not convinced that Hook was ever really a villain to be honest, well evil anyway. He did some piratey things but all in all-he’s always had a good heart. What do you think of Regina’s dream? Why was evil Queen trying to protect Robin from Regina?

Things that made me go hmmmm…what’s up with Henry? Where’s he been? Maybe he’ll jump in Blue’s clues style to the book and they’ll all have to go get him, or the door will appear and only certain people can go through? And the whole Jolly Roger thing was a bit rushed. They must need that ship back for an upcoming plot is all I can think of, very convenient even though I loved seeing Ariel and that cute little ship in the bottle. Elsa can shrink ships? Nice. She does have other powers-she can bring inanimate objects to life like snowmen and can create things like ice skates so why not! Loved the reference anyway. Holy long email Batman! Sorry! Big love Oncers!! Trace

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From Katie

Hi, Jeff and Colleen!

I liked Ursula’s story! It was a nice twist on the sirens and The Little Mermaid. Young Ursula had a nice voice. Although I am glad Ursula got a happy ending, I thought it would take longer.
It was nice to see Ariel again, especially since she saved Hook. Hopefully, something can be done to save her kingdom.
I wasn’t expecting the author to be trapped behind the door in the book. The main question is who trapped him in there and why.
I hope August stays for awhile. I have a feeling that if Emma turns evil or is about to turn evil he would be the main one to get her to join the good side again. Though Hook and Henry might be helpful as well.
Have a great day!

Katie

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From Brad

Hello Jeff and Colleen, I sure hope you and the listeners are having a relaxing weekend just stretching out your tentacles. Now unto the things I learned this week on the episode, Poor Unfortunate Soul.

#1. Winston went from chasing
ghost to killing pirates.

#2. Regina is an excellent
ventriloquist.

#3. When planning a surprise
party, keep Belle in the dark.
She’s terrible at keeping
secrets.

#4. It’s not polite to insult the size
of a man’s ship.

#5. August is now perfect for the
remake of Roxanne.

#6. When Ursula finally has
children, those 8 hands will be
a godsend.

#7. No timber for Cruella, she’s
into the scruffy looking nerf
herders.

#8. ALWAYS lock the back door
when planning a villainous
scheme.

#9. Threatening a deity is not the
smartest of plans.

#10. Don’t put Mr. Smee in charge
of keeping tabs on the food
cargo, no matter how much
he begs.

OBSERVATIONS:

FATHOMS BELOW

After hearing Ursula sing Fathoms Below, it makes me think that a singing episode could be amazing if it was done right (Jeff, you can begin your sighs and moaning now). I’m not sure how they could do this, maybe a filler episode that’s really a dream? I would even take it as an extra on the bluray that is not tied to the main storyline.

GLOWERHAVEN

Ursula tells Hook she is saving money to travel to Glowerhaven. In The Little Mermaid, there is mention of the Princess of Glowerhaven. She is an unseen character and is only mentioned once as a woman brought to Prince Eric to be considered for marriage.

THEORIES:

THE DOOR

What if the door is actually keeping the author locked outside of the book, while at the same time keeping the whole world of Once Upon A Time inside? If this is true, a representation of who the author is, may already be in Storybrooke. The two most likely candidates could be Emma, the savior or Henry, the truest believer. This would explain the extra pages as well, which are illustrations that were scraped and didn’t make it into the story but are somehow bleeding through. The characters have now become self aware, leading everyone to search for the same thing, the author. A somewhat similar idea is seen with Bastian from the Neverending Story. As he reads the book, the characters become aware of his existence. Could this be a glimpse into the final conclusion of the entire series?

BURNING QUESTIONS:

SQUID INK

Was squid ink used to write and paint the illustrations in the book?

POSEIDON

If Poseidon could zap the squid ink out of Ursala’s hand, why not do the same with the shell? I totally did not understand why a deity would be helpless to a pirate with one hand. Did I miss something?

THE SEA GODDESS

Ursula said that she was named after the sea goddess of old. Was the gold statue that threatened Regina the real Ursula?

– Brad

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Poor Unfortunate Soul Review – First Thoughts – 269

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First Thoughts

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poor unfortunate soul recap first thoughts

Episode Number: 269

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Killian on another trip for Pan while he plots to destroy the Dark One.

Mermaid songs. Siren songs. We’ve already seen a Siren and Mermaids.

Rocks did Ursula make them appear – with her song?

Ursula could sing – very Ariel like. She wanted her voice to make people happy, like her Mother wanted. King Triton wanted her to use her voice to lure ships toward them to destroy the person that killed her Mother.

Who killed Ursula’s Mother? Hook?

Regina removed the knife, before it harmed August, then used the threat of fire.

August – The Dragon was looking for the Author for years, then August took his research.

Gold and the Queens still don’t trust Regina completely.

Gold to search August’s trailer.

Regina pulled a play from the movie “Ghost” playbook and inhabited Snow to relay her message. She told them that Gold is in town and planning something “bad”.

In Gold’s shop. Belle now learns that she was tricked again by Gold. Emma helps Killian not act in haste.

August knew about Robin Hood, because “Just cause the boy doesn’t remember being me, doesn’t mean I didn’t remember being the boy”.

Killian calling Ursula with the Conch shell. So, it not only calls Squids, but Ursula, too. Killian to return Urs’s happy ending for info about Gold.

Young Ursula had a beautiful singing voice. Hook bought her a drink for allowing his ship to escape. She broke into King Triton’s vault and stole the bracelet to allow her to walk on land.

King Triton used to be happy, before his wife

Turned my voice into a weapon. “Love is a weapon…”

Her voice can soothe even the most haunted soul. Her voice took away the pain Hook was carrying for Milah’s death by Rumpelstiltskin.

Saving for passage to GlaworHaven (Like MistHaven?). Hook will take her.

Piece of Iridium. Something on the Jolly Roger will give her her singing voice back.

Urs was banished to this world.

King Triton can enchant items. He told Killian about the Squid Ink to paralyze, in return for Killian to steal Urs’s singing voice. Triton also wanted Killian to show her how awful human’s can be.

Will helps Killian.

Robin – is that really Robin? Or Gold? Damn nightmare.

Regina, don’t take Mal’s sleeping potion.

Gold didn’t even search August’s trailer. He got a spell from the fairies’ power (How did he do that?) to undo the magic the fairies did, like making August a real boy from wood.

Snow is worrying that Emma is turning to the dark side.

Built in lie detector potion with a nose growing booster.

August removed the page about the door, so he was hiding it from those who read it.

Sorcerer’s Mansion search.

Kind of like Sea Monkeys, but make ships in bottles grow to full size.

Killian was honest with Ursula.

Villains can’t have Happy Endings.

Killian vs. Ursula

Ariel!

She always slaps him.

I thought Ariel was in

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Enter the Dragon Analysis – Main Show – 268

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Enter the Dragon Analysis

Main Show

Episode Number: 268

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Michael Coleman (Happy),
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From Aleana

Loving the bad Regina, even if she’s just pretending :) August is Back!! Please!!!! Don’t de-aging him keep him as August
Maleficent; “Are you a bad girl.”
Regina: “The worse.”

Cruella’s game of don’t be a hero was fun… Maleficent defending her was really nice, “She’s just rusty.”

Their friendship really has developed a lot, Emma worrying about Regina.
Haha, Maleficent having a bad hair day.

“Pain always makes your stronger.” Poor Maleficent.
“Because if someone as powerful as you can’t get there revenge, that means I’ll never get mine too”, the struggle for happiness is truly hard, poor Regina :(

Poor Mal, “I lost the fire along time ago.” Lol, loving how Regina doesn’t want to be seen with the Charming Softball Team, “I can’t be seen with you.”

Emma and Regina: “I’m going to stick by you.”

Seeing Belle and Will on a date breaks my heart, what about Ana :(
I love how Regina helped Maleficent to help reignite her fire within, I guess thats why she’s gave Regina the benefit of the doubt.

Everyone wants Pinocchio, do they have Amber Alerts in Storybrooke lol. So cool how the villains are taking a page out of the “Heroes Playbook” and so the even the playing field they have to do the same. The struggle to attain happiness is heartbreaking.

Nice to see Aurora back, Regina: “That was inspired”, “You reminded me of who I am, thank you.” Aww Maleficent :)

Damn, plot twist, Belle gave Rumple the dagger as Hook. “I don’t know if I can ever be over him.”

Regina is in on the plan now, “You didn’t think I would stay banished for long.”
“Sometimes the teacher needs to learn from the teacher, sometimes you need to fall very far, too see the light.”

Rumple: “Have you gone soft.”
Regina: “Never!”

Hey I have a theory what if the villains did succeed and tip the balance and the villians won and the heroes didn’t in the season finale and we think Emma the one who might become a villain but since Charmings went to great length for that not to happen the villains kidnapped baby Neal and magically aged him to twenty-one years old and instead of Emma being the greatest villain baby Neal is and next season is them saving baby Neal and tipping balance back what you think of these guys to play baby Neal

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From Trace

Hi Colleen and Jeff!

Missed you this week-glad you’re doing 2 podcasts-double the fun! Hope your feeling better.

Here are my thoughts for the week. Wow…a lot happened this episode, and I loved it. The “mean girls” of evil so funny. Though, if doing shots and partying too much is a sign of being evil, then call me a Queen of Darkness! I thought Emma’s concern for Regina was a great sign of their growing friendship. The fact that Regina lied to her was bad. But as irony would have it, at the same time it showed that Regina was keeping Snow’s secret-I think Lana did a great job of showing that she really didn’t want to lie, but had to. The heroes are not very good at covert operations, Regina is going to get busted for sure if the Scooby gang isn’t more careful. Oh, Belle, belle, belle!!! Isn’t she the smart Disney Princess? I suppose book smart and street smart are not the same. But she knew in her gut that something was wrong and didn’t trust herself. Bad bad Rumple! Not a great way to get her to trust you again. I feel like if all the hero’s would just sit down in a room and spill all their secrets to each other-they’d be a lot better off. Do you think Rumple was Hook when they all met at Granny’s and knows Regina is a mole? Maleficent the 80’s drug addict-so awesome. So, cross Stephan off the list of baby daddy’s now that he’s been “taken care of.” I still think the Sorcerer is the father, I hear a lot of people saying its Rumple-but I get no sense that they had a “intimate relationship”, well not yet anyway, this IS Once Upon a time after all. Poor poor Marco. I’m happy to have August back cuz I thought it was kind of creepy he was Pinocchio again, but how much can this man take? Regina said she would never let them hurt a child-but he’s now not a child-be careful August!

Things that made me go hmmmm…where did the train come from? Was it magical as part of the initiation? How did Belle not figure this one out? Why would Hook be sooo concerned about the dagger all of a sudden and she even said she sensed Rumple was around?? That’s it? One 1 minute scene of Aurora? I hope we get more when we find out who the Father is in a backstory. Maybe there won’t be anymore because they are taking the story in a different direction?

Lastly, I do agree that Rumple’s end game may not be what we all think. If is happy ending is Belle, then he could turn out to be a hero after all. He only needed the evil duo to get into Storybrooke. If he does know Regina is playing both sides and not giving her up might show he’s playing both sides as well. I feel like we all give Rumple a pass when his evilness is for a greater purpose (like finding Bae), so maybe this is the same thing-the means will justify the end? My hope for the season: That the “Charmings” get the chance to help Maleficent find her “lost” baby so all can be forgiven and she’ll get her happy ending and be redeemed.

BIG LOVE ONCERS!! Patience everyone-only the 3rd episode and a lot to cover. Talk to all you “Poor Unfortunate Souls” next week! Trace

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From Brad

Welcome back….dearies!
I hope you both are looking and felling better than Maleficent did. Now, shall we begin. Here are the things I leaned this week on the episode, Enter The Dragon.

#1. If you’re not drinking, burning
and destroying things, you’re
not having a good time.

#2. These spell books are like
trading cards.

#3. Maleficent was one smooth
criminal.

#4. Regina’s code name in this
episode could have been
Bonnie Brasco.

#5. Ursala is not the only one who
drinks like a fish.

#6. Turning into a dragon can be a
bit showy but ripping
someone’s heart out and
crushing it in front of them is
perfectly acceptable.

#7. A piece of wood from the
forever burning tree would be a
wood cutters dream.

#8. At least Cruella’s
enchantments can drive better
than her.

#9. Gold took the Jungle Book
song, “I wanna be like you”, to
a whole new creepy level.

#10. Even those skilled in Dark
magic realize the raw power
that is duct tape.

BURNING QUESTIONS:

If Cruella can persuade dogs, bugs and vehicles, can she do the same to people?

HIGHLIGHT:

One word, AUGUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

– Brad

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From Reagan

Jeff,

This is Raegan from Utah. We met early this month near the flag pole in DCA. You came in with Tommy Alison of the DisGeek and Cruise Dudes Podcast.

I downloaded every episode of your Podcast and am looking forward to listening in. This is what I did with DisGeek too. I came in about 15 or so episodes.

It was great to meet you with Tommy in the Parks. I think the Podcast community is a pretty interesting and cool group of people. I am happy as a fan. I don’t know what I would have to say about anything on a weekly or monthly basis.

Thanks,

Raegan

I started your podcast but it seems to be mid season and started with the miller’s daughter. Is there a different podcast of yours that started with episode one season one?
Thanks,

Raegan

Link I mentioned: http://onceuponatimepodcast.com/ouatstart

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Unforgiven Analysis – Main Show – 266

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Unforgiven Analysis

Main Show

Episode Number: 266

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From Aleana

Average. Some really great scenes but some real stinkers too.

*** This show’s obsession with purity in exactly the wrong way continues to be stupid. The cognitive dissonance just doesn’t make for good television. Maleficent basically revealed that Emma is…a human! Capable of both good and bad acts! WOW! And knowing the bad things Snow and Charming had done, even at that point makes their insistence at being heroes two dimensional. Will Emma really be that mad at them for doing everything they can to protect her from becoming a villian. (I miss the Snow and Charming of Snow Falls)

PS I still love this show

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From Chris Tipton

Hello,
I have to sadly say this was a very meh episode to me. Very slow paced and plodding. With that said… My 5 points

*** 5. The reveal of what Snowing did to Maleficent- Im not sure of how i feel about this. I dont know whether to think its super dark or just plain silly. I do feel it was kind of a letdown for the build up, at least so far. Hopefully the more they reveal will make it better. I have issues with what they’re saying about Emma. So she’s basically any human, she has the potential to be good or bad, so does anyone else. And Snow saying if she turns dark, her child will be doomed to that darkness as well. Excuse me?! No child is ever doomed or forced to follow their parents mistakes. That is just ridiculous. Ok, ill get off the soapbox

4. Maleficents resurrection- I felt the way this came about made since and was handled pretty well. Its still pretty convenient and easy that all they needed was her ashes and Snowings blood, but i suppose it is what it is. When she materialized there it was, genuinely scary and makes you worry for the charmings.
Side note, im not digging her horns, as good a job Edwardo Castro usually does, these look cheaply made and leave alot to be desired.

3. Belle and Will…. Wow Doctor, i did not see this coming. So Belle has definitely moved on, and I REALLY, REALLY want to know what happened to Anastasia now. It cant be good.

2. Cruella- She continues to be absolutely Stellar. Her cunning wit and snark easily rivals Regina in my opinion. I love how she calls everyone Darling, sort of a, parallel to Rumples “Dearie”. Some highlights of her: wanting to turn Granny into a fur coat, she wears blood diamonds apparently and she likes charmings looks. Shes by far the best of the 3. Still waiting on Ursula to become interesting at all. I feel like i seem to say this about every new villain, but Cruella is already one of my favorite villains yet. Actually, just for fun, ill rate the villains
1. Cruella
2. Rumple
3. Ingred
4. Pan
5. Cora
6. Zelena
7. Maleficent
8. Ursula
(I don’t count Regina because shes no longer a villain but when she was shes obviously the best, and Greg and Tamara just sucked)

1. Regina and Marco- this was easily my favorite part of an otherwise lackluster episode. Seeing Regina so vulnerable and apologizing like that was so amazing. Shes truly a hero, one of the good guys if you will. I know many fans miss the evil queen but i absolutely adore where she is now. Some of the best character development ive ever witnessed on screen. Marco Giving her August’s stuff was tear-worthy and very exciting!! Can’t wait to see all that was in that satchel

HM-Regina reminiscing about her happiness with Robin was heart breaking. Robin needs to get his hands on that scroll and get back to town

Overused term of the week: witches

Well, after a second watch and writing this feedback, i liked the episode more, but still not great. 7/10 chiseled chins

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From Trace

Hello again Colleen and Jeff,

You said you thought it was interesting to hear how we all found your podcast. I heard you and Colleen on a round table on the Once Podcast. Those are a bit hectic to listen to…but you and Colleen stood out to me with your positivity. There’s a lot of haters out in the fandom, so I choose to listen to the few podcasts where I feel the hosts actually love the show like I do, and you and Colleen remain my top faves!!! I, at that time was binge watching Once to get caught up…so I would watch a show, then go listen to your podcast and have loved it since!! I enjoy hearing everyone’s feedback as well. The fans of your podcast are funny, and most of all…positive. I usually end up re-watching the show due to others thoughts that are so interesting! Ok, love fest over for now J

Here are a few of my thoughts for this week: Last week I said I thought Lilly was involved, and now we all know how! I totally agree with both of you that Lilly is the “lost child.” Wow Colleen, I never thought of the baby in utero swap idea though…so interesting of a theory! She has a star tattoo so the father could be the sorcerer because of the stars in the hat? Or the Author because now we know he left clues to his where abouts and maybe the tattoo is a clue for Lilly? But, King Stephen could also be?? Maleficent must have found a way to get Lilly over to this land prior to the curse…or the sorcerer sent her over to save her. Here’s a side note I found interesting…Lilly means pure and innocent. But, her quote unquote foster/adoptive father called her “Lilleth’, which means dark/evil. So, Maleficents’ child (like she said to Snow) has the potential to be very very evil, but very good as well. I think the irony in all of this will be that Snow and Charming did everything in their power to assure that Emma would be “good”, by not doing anything dark. But, all this lying and betrayal is what will send Emma dark now anyway. But, if they would have all just worked together, they could have probably done more good to stop the curse. Kind of like now…it seems to me that EVERYONE is on the same side-they just don’t realize it yet…they all want to find the author and get the happy endings. If the hero’s and villians would team up for once…imagine what they could accomplish!

So, I think I just used all my time on that story arc, there was way too much good stuff in this episode. I can’t not add though how great the acting was this week by all, and OMG Belle and Will!!!! Ol’ Rump is not going to like this at all!

Hope you feel better Jeff-Big love to all the Oncer’s out there…this is going to be sooooooooooooooo good!!! Talk to ya all next week. Trace

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From Chris Tipton

I have a theory that maybe Maleficents childs father may be king Stephan. This would definitely be a once style twist on the original story.

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From Katie

Hi, Jeff and Colleen!

I have enjoyed this season so far!
I think that Snow and Charming should have told Emma the truth. Lily could be Maleficent’s daughter, especially since it’s been hinted that she will be in another episode.
I think Henry will find out who the writer is in a couple more episodes. Have a great week!

Katie

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From Brad

Good day darlings! Here are the things I learned this week in the episode, Unforgiven.

#1. If you want to keep Henry
happy, make sure those
chocolate donuts are frosted!

#2. Sometimes that 2:38 in the
morning whiskey is the only
thing that will help.

#3. Rushing Granny is a very bad
idea and will only prolong your
misery.

#4. After six whole months outside
of Storybrooke, Gold still
does not posses the most
powerful object our world has
to offer, a smart phone!

#5. A car full of parking
violations and a glovebox
stocked with gin is perfectly
acceptable when Sheriff
chiseled chin pulls you over.

#6. In the highly debated hot top
of french fries vs onion rings,
Emma is pro rings.

#7. As long as Belle and her
extraordinary inventory skills
are around, Will’s thieving days
may be over.

#8. The Charming’s would have
made great villains with their
lying skills. Ursalla and
Cruella should take note.

#9. After all the curses in
Storybrooke, not one person
thought of maybe weaving
in some IMacs for everyone.

#10. Emma’s needs a new super
power because her old one is
about as reliable as Sleepy on
guard duty.

OBSERVATIONS:

The Golden Bird story has struck again!

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– Brad

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From Marilyn

Hi Jeff and Colleen,
I know that I am probably too late for your podcast taping to comment on the episode, but I just wanted to say that I really missed both ONCE and your podcast during the break and welcome you both back.
Take care,
Marilyn

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Enter the Dragon Review – First Thoughts – 267

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Episode Number: 267

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** We will be recording our “Unforgiven” Main Show this week and get caught up.

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Unforgiven Review – First Thoughts – 265

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2:37 to 2:38

How soon did you know it was a nightmare?

Did you notice Charming drinking McCutcheon Whiskey (LOST)? Like Daughter, like Father, I guess.

The Queens of Darkness are very Rumpelesque when they meet the Charmings to make a deal

Ursula “tentacled” a mysterious box from beyond Belle’s back, however once it was taken and she was asked if anything was stolen, she knew based on her records. She kept great records!

Did you notice Cruella’s Dalmatian spotted cellphone cover?

It was great to see Geppetto and little Pinocchio again, but if only they had adult Pinocchio…

Another quest – Go to the Tree of Wisdom to find out how to defeat Regina’s plan. It requires 2 of the most Valiant to approach and ask.

Sheriff “Chisel Chin” pulls over Cruella and Ursula. Charming found what Ursula took from Gold’s shop, but wasn’t honest with Emma.

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Darkness on the Edge of Town Analysis – Main Show – 264

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Episode Number: 264

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News:

From listener Ken in the Steveston area,

He gives us a short weather report from Vancouver “Weather has been awesome here this winter ….. unusually warm (50 – 65 F daytime) ….. mowed the lawn twice already … cherry blossoms are out as well as crocuses and beginning of daffodils. Only snow we got was a couple of days in November.”

From Giennie

Hello Jeff and Colleen!

First I would like to say that I am a long time listener and fan of your podcast and I can’t WAIT till you are back on so I can listen.. your shows are are one of my favorites to listen to. :) Thank you so much for doing them :)

The reason why I am writing is that some friends of mine and I have launched a CS T-shirt charity campaign and we are doing our best to get the word out to help raise not only money for this charity but also awareness of something that is prevelant in our time but never really focused on as it should be…suicide awareness.

We have designed a beautiful CS T-Shirt to sell as a T-shirt, tank or hoodie to help raise money for them:

https://represent.com/captain-swan-charity-campaign-for-sosad

The charity SOSAD(Save Our Sons And Daughters) is an Ireland-registered suicide prevention charity and that Colin O’Donoghue supports and all the proceeds from this campaign go directly to them

www.sosadireland.ie

This group has 6 locations, including Colin’s hometown of Drogheda.
The charity’s five main goals are to raise awareness of suicide in Ireland, break the taboo surrounding suicide, provide support and direction to those feeling suicidal, provide support and direction to those approached by someone feeling suicidal, and to provide support and direction for those bereaved by suicide.
It’s a great cause to support. The need to help those who can’t help themselves has become more prevalent everyday around the world.

Our campaign will end on March 21st.

Sincerely Giennie D

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The charity helped by this effort is an Ireland suicide prevention charity called SOSAD (Save Our Sons and Daughters) supported by Colin O’Donoghue.
The charity raises awareness of suicide in Ireland and provides support for those persons affected by suicide.

https://represent.com/captain-swan-charity-campaign-for-sosad

Views:

The Storybrooke Town line – heals limping, as well as puts back on your tie.

What’s with Chernabog’s belt? Is it the source of it’s power/protection?

On our Facebook page, Carla noticed “It appears to be a crest of some kind….So possibly a cursed royal?”

Mother Superior’s name is Ruel Ghorm – we have proof!

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Yen Sid is the landlord of the Sorcerer’s house?

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On our Facebook page, Nancy (from the DIS Unplugged podcast) “I’m betting that the Yensid was purely for the fan theorists! Loving the details in hometown info. Who are Peter and Emilia Lurie from Michigan?”

Facebook posts:

From Rebecca

Thank you for alerting me that there was a book of 101 Dalmatians. I’m reading now. Cruella’s hubby is indeed in it, and Cruella mentions that she made him change his last name to hers. Love it!

From Aubrey

I think there is a small small chance that the author is Henry in the future writing down everyone’s stories because he knows them all and sends the book back in time or something to himself, so that he can believe and help Emma believe. But that probably is way off.

Email points:

Aleana

Nice to see Snow doubting people, it’s refreshing for her character, *instead of* giving them a second chance.

The Chernabog was after Emma because of her potential for evil, interesting, most be tying to the theme of what really makes a villain and what is good and evil. Interesting how Snow and Charming threatened Ursula and Cruella! I really want to know what happened in the enchanted forest!

Chris

I just have to say, as a big disney and fantasia fan, the reveal that the dark curse came from Bald Mountain was one of my favorite reveals so far in the show, and Chernabog was awesome!! Also Victoria Smurfit is killing it as Cruella… Spot on!! (see what i did there?) Awesome episode, 8.5/10 clucks

Trace

Hi Colleen and Jeff, (ladies first sir J),

Great to have you back for the season return…like a comfy blanket on long cold day!

Here are some of my thoughts. I loved this return! They answered some questions and gave us some fun new stuff. Oh…Colleen, the old curse (Regina’s) was that you lose memories when you cross the line, this new curse is that you can’t come back once you leave, (Ingrid’s curse), but you do remember who you are, I remember you asking in the last podcast…

Hero’s going dark, villains trying to be good…sounds cool to me! Very OUAT to flip the script so I think it will be very interesting…seeing Regina be the moral compass over the Charming’s was great! This is some secret for them to break character, it will cause mistrust with Emma and help turn her to the dark side I think. I have a straaaange feeling that Lilly is somehow involved in all this-but I don’t know how. I can’t wait!

Cruella is the best! How great was her green breath power??? Just like the movie with her green cigarette smoke…thought that was brilliant! Love her one-liners, but Regina asking “how a plate of uncooked calamari got the dark ones cell phone” was priceless!

A couple things did make me go hmmmm…WHY DID THEY LET THEM KEEP THE SCROLL? You do want your boyfriend back right? Kind of convenient and we need some scroll rules for sure. Ladies, always be sure to check for sneaky black smoke that releases evil devil dogs that seek the heart of potential darkness!! J Blue is still very evasive. She knows more and I think she will end up as being someone very important when this whole show ends. Why didn’t they ask her what’s going on in the hat? No one was curious? Hook is so upset about sucking the apprentice in there, but never asked about him?

Last. I hope that all 3 of these villainesses don’t end up dying this season. I would like to see some true redemption. Does Rumpel ever have a consequence? Ugh…I hope he doesn’t get the dagger back…I want Regina to have control over the dagger-she is the only trust worthy one there right now, how ironic!

Can’t wait to see how this all starts playing out…looking like a great 4B!! Big Love to both of you and all the Oncer’s listening-ttya next week! Trace

From Brad

Hi guys, it’s great to have the show back and to hear the podcast again. I hope life is treating you well and that you both are having a cluckidy cluck cluck day! Now, unto the things I learned this week on the episode, Darkness on the Edge of Town.

#1. Halitosis and Cruella go great
together.

#2. Henry will never win the
perfect attendance award for
his school.

#3. Make sure you stock up on
Ramen when the Dark One
comes to visit.

#4. Why go through the annoying
hassle of using your hands to
remove pictures off the wall,
when you can just burn them
off.

#5. There is a good possibility that
Snow consumed alcoholic
beverages while on the job as
mayor.

#6. De Vil’s driving instructor must
have accepted bribes.

#7. The “E” word should not be
thrown around flippantly.

#8. Getting the smell of fish out of
your dress is one of the many
hardships of being a fairy tale
character.

#9. There is no redemption for a
dwarf named Evil-y.

#10. Anton has finally made a
name for himself outside of
Storybrooke.

– Brad

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Darkness on the Edge of Town Review – First Thoughts

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Episode Number: 263

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“Darkness On The Edge Of Town”
by Bruce Springsteen

They’re still racing out at the Trestles,
But that blood it never burned in her veins,
Now I hear she’s got a house up in Fairview,
And a style she’s trying to maintain.
Well, if she wants to see me,
You can tell her that I’m easily found,
Tell her there’s a spot out ‘neath Abram’s Bridge,
And tell her, there’s a darkness on the edge of town.

Everybody’s got a secret, Sonny,
Something that they just can’t face,
Some folks spend their whole lives trying to keep it,
They carry it with them every step that they take.
Till some day they just cut it loose
Cut it loose or let it drag ‘em down,
Where no one asks any questions,
or looks too long in your face,
In the darkness on the edge of town.

Some folks are born into a good life,
Other folks get it anyway, anyhow,
I lost my money and I lost my wife,
Them things don’t seem to matter much to me now.
Tonight I’ll be on that hill ’cause I can’t stop,
I’ll be on that hill with everything I got,
Lives on the line where dreams are found and lost,
I’ll be there on time and I’ll pay the cost,
For wanting things that can only be found
In the darkness on the edge of town.

Ursula and Cruella summoned to Maleficent’s Forbidden Fortress by a mysterious person (That rhymes with KumpelGilskin). It’s a classic “gather the participants together” tropes (Like the movie “Murder on the Orient Express” or “Clue”). Was the summon note written in magical squid ink, I wonder?

Cruella breaths magical smoke to beguile or enchant creatures.

Cruella’s Hell hounds?

8:15 going to 8:16 again.

Starting over – again.

Things are Changing in Storybrooke theme.

Henry is back at school. Henry taking the bus. Regina is letting go of the control of Henry. Good steps for Regina.

We see Snow teaching what appears to be High School students. We see notes about birds on the chalkboard and she is holding a bird on her finger, which hearkens back to the Pilot.

Regina returns to the Mayor’s office. She “hotly” removes the picture Snow put up.

Granny is Neal’s babysitter.

Emma suits up and grabs the Sheriff’s badge to reclaim that role.

Hook gets Emma coffee to start her day. Very progressive.

We see that Gold’s Pawn Shop is Closed.

Hook is very frustrated about the Fairies being trapped in the hat, and especially the fact that he had a hand in it.

Belle let’s him know that between the internet and “the finest minds in the world,” they would find a way to rescue the Fairies from the magical hat.

Rumple is living in New York, sponging off Ursula to put his plan together to return to Storybrooke.

It appears that Cruella’s husband is being apprehended for some kind of crime the FBI is involved with. Tax Evasion?

Cruella Feinberg.

Cruella lost all she had, like Rumpel and Ursulla (Maleficent, too). Maybe the similarity of the group’s plight, might help the Queens of Darkness join in with Rumpel’s plan.

Rumpel being outside of Storybrooke was more boring than I was expected. I wanted him to get back to Storybrooke (so did he, I’ll bet). :)

Rumpel talks about Heroes and Villians in the storybook getting their “just desserts”. He wants to change the odds. He hasn’t learned that if someone could, they already would have. His ego will be another element that will be his undoing.

Mr. Clucks (a nod to Lost) makes an appearance.

I love the fact that with as much power as the three evil characters had wielded in Fairy Tale Land, now they are stuck in a drive through to eat drive through chicken.

Emma, on the other hand, is trying to eat healthier with a (Non-Granny’s) Kale salad.

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Heroes and Villains Further Discussion – 4X12 – 262

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Episode Number: 262

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We will play part 2 of the VM message from Abby Ross who played Young Emma

News:

Ernie Hudson has been cast as King Triton

Joanna Garcia Swisher will return as Ariel per http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/once-upon-a-time-joanna-garcia-swisher-ariel-return-1201380663/

Eion Bailey will return as August W. Booth/Pinocchio per http://tvline.com/2014/12/18/once-upon-a-time-season-4-eion-bailey-returns-august-spoilers/

Email points:

From Aleana

Yay! a potrait of Ingrid, Gerta and Helga is being put up in Arendelle Castle.

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From Chris Tipton

Another episode full of epic. Unlike alot of people i really loved this half season and this was a great end. My top 5
5) Frozen gang returns to Arandelle
This was a sad moment for me. Elizabeth Lail as Anna is one of my all time favorite characters on this show and she will be sorely missed. Im so happy she had a hand in saving everyone. Anna looked absolutely glorious in her wedding gown, and i loved our one last frozen reference… CHOCOLATE!!
4) The Queens of Darkness
Can Cruella turn herself into a dalmatian on command? Maybe this is her superpower. I love Maleficents new look. She finally looks legit, i thought she looked dumb in season one. Cruella also is spot on. She already is terrifying. Those eyebrows haha. I dont care for Ursula so far but hopefully she’ll grow on me. My pet theory is Lilly is Cruella De Vil because Lilith is a demon in many stories and De vil.. Devil so theres that. One question, Rumple needs to make 2 more stops? Maleficent is a wraith beneath the clock tower… How does he think he can find her?
3)Regina and Robin/Marian
Im so proud of Regina making the right decision. It was so heart breaking at the town line, second most heart wrenching part of the show. Alot of people predicted this and it came to fruition. I felt how we got there was kind of silly and contrived but alas it is once upon a time. Also, how in the blue heck is Robin anymore qualified for dealing with the regular world than Marian? I still am pretty sure we haven’t seen the last of Robin so there’s hope yet for Regina #RIPOUTLAWQUEEN
2) The Sorcerer is the author!! This was my theory all season and i suppose i was correct it seems. Very cool seeing that room. Did Henry just go around pulling on lights till he found a secret room?
Henry, please dont call Belle Grandma ever again!! Too much awkward.
1)Rumples Story / End of Rumbelle
Another Magical plot device, but it was nice to get another Camelot reference, and it showed Belle Rumples true self so i suppose it was useful! So epic finding out the house was the sorcerer’s, which i also had predicted all along. Cool to see the walking broom again and hear the amazing sorcerer’s apprentice theme. Really Hook needs to get a bruise checked? Real subtle Rumple!! The scene in the clock tower turned observatory was really cool. Awesome effects on the stars. So glad Rumple didn’t get to kill Hook. So now for Rumple and Belle at the town line. For so long I just wanted Belle to find Rumple out, but now im not so sure. This scene was almost too much to take. It was so amazing but so soul crushing at the same time, easily the most devastating scene ive ever watched on television. I cant even believe they went through with it. Im excited to see the direction they’re going though. We all know Rumple will return return to Storybrooke somehow. #RIPRUMBELLE (although they are still legally maried) 2 ships dead in one episode!

Honerable mention goes to Regina and Rumples talk. Haven’t seen this in a long time. No surprise Rumple was on to Henry, so I suppose Henrys days as the apprentice are over.

Another epic episode. This is going to be a long 10 weeks!! 9.7/10 cannibalistic fishes

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From Angela

Jeff and Collen Roney

Big Love to you guys I enjoy listening to your podcast.

this episode pulled all the heart strings.

Here are some the things I noticed:

Belle said that she tried to change to please Rumple and fit into his life. She came to the hard and painful realization that this was not working or healthy. Belle knew Rumple was up to no good but chose to overlook the signs. I think people have the tendency to overlook unhealthy habits and faults when they are in love.

Lucky for Hook she came to her senses and really laid down the law to Rumple.

I have always considered Rumple a villian. He corrupts the innocent and the unaware with the art of the deal that is to his benefit. His artifacts that he peddles can be dangerous. He still hands them out for an I. O. U. Which leads people to a bad end.

Ask Regina-No deals with Rumple!!!

Rumple parks it in regina’s car and gives her his goodbye speech. At this point, she realizes Rumple is still a Tool. Regina gives him her patented side eye look. Their relationship is completely strange. Rumple has an affection for Regina that has yet to be explained. When regina first summoned Rumple, a comment was made that he meet her as a wee tiny baby. It makes me think Rumple choose regina to get back at Cora. I would love to see that fleshed out with Rose McGowan and or Barbara Hershey return OUAT.

Regina has her brave face on for Robin. At the end of the day she chooses to save Marion. Regina usually is by herself crying her heart out ie seasons 1-3. This time she has a shoulder to lean on “Emma”. It funny to see this relationship develop from two women trying kill each other to budding friendship.

I believe Robin will be back for his Regina. He can not stay away. I can’t wait for what is in store for Outlaw Queen 1 March.

Stay awesome guys!!!!!

Angela

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From Diane

Dear Jeff and Colleen,

In regards to last nights show I think there may be more reasons that the gauntlet led Belle to the dagger and not her.

Rumple said the gauntlet lead to the persons weakness and then added that was “usually” the thing they loved the most. That last is an assumption/belief/prejudice of Rumples. The only fact is the gauntlet leads to the persons weakness…which Belle clearly is not.

Twice in the past Rumple has referred to Belle as his strength. First was when he told Ariel to tell Belle she would find what she needed by the “strength of our love”. The second time was before he sacrificed himself and said “And I love you Belle, you made me stronger.”

Whether he loves his power or her more is something up for debate and remains to be seen, but whatever the case it doesn’t change the likelihood that the gauntlet did not lead to her because she was his strength not his weakness.

This also harkens back to exploring whether love was weakness (as per Cora) or strength (as per Emma) and on this matter they have usually shown the villains got this one wrong, it’s strength. So I think Rumple at the time equated love with weakness but that is an incorrect assumption.

Belle has a million things to be upset about, but I think the gauntlet not leading to her signified something good. Our loves should be our strengths not our weakness.

Thanks for listening, Diane

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From Brad

Seasonings greetings Jeff and Colleen, if you get a scent of desperation and gin in the air, hide the Reindog Lady just in case. Now onto the things I learned this week on the episode, Heroes and Villains.

1). Broomsticks can crack their
knuckles.

2). One doesn’t simply just ‘walk’ to
another realm.

3). Don’t underestimate a blissfully
ignorant wife.

4). When traveling with a woman,
one suitcase is never enough.

5). When the cat is away, the mice
don’t dust.

6). Even the Dark One needs clean
clothes.

7.) Storybrooke has an open car
door policy.

8). It’s really difficult to say goodbye
when your boyfriends annoying
wife is freezing to death.

9). Emma would not make a good
heart surgeon.

10). The word “never” actually
means “just for the next couple
of episodes” in Storybrooke.

THEORIES

I believe Cruella may posses a coat
with magic properties just like Ruby. The only difference is, Ruby’s cloak turned her back into a human but Cruella’s would turn her into an animal, such as a Dalmatian. This would be a way to give her magic while still staying true to her character.

That’s it for now.

See you in the Spring!

– Brad

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From Maii

Hey guys, sorry for my messes over the past wks I’ve been all over the place (’tis the season right?) Also my computer is in the shop again so it’s harder for me to have everything in the same place. I’m mess, adorable but a mess all the same..

I’m not gonna lie I was severly underwhelmed by the episode, most of the people I’ve talked to ended the episode the same way “That’s it?” It felt like a regular episode not a finale. Yes they wrapped things up but like I said in our own podcast it’s like they had a lot of open wounds and instead of stitching them up nicely they just put band-aids on them and called it a day.

The entire episode was completely choppy and made no sense, also Emma Swan was completely out of character. It went from point A to point C then to F then back to B and honestly why didn’t they just make this one two hours instead of Smash the Mirror? I didn’t hate the episode I was just underwhelmed and I’m very critical of the things I love.

First the bad:

Ingrid’s Spells not getting undone: This makes no sense considering all of Zelena’s spells were undone completely when she died so this just feels like a cop-out. You guys know by now that I was not okay with the way OQ was handled but this just seemed like a cop out to give them more drama. (Although they didn’t really have drama Robin waited like one ep to cheat on his wife)

Queens of Darkness: Okay I loved the Queens of Darkness don’t get me wrong. They were fantastic and Cruella is totally my new fav. The fact that they introduced them in the middle of the episode kind of stole away from the “shock” of the end (by the way was that supposed to be the huge cliffhanger? Because they completely oversold it, everyone and their mothers knew the trio was coming it wasn’t a shock) They should have waited to introduce them in the final scene.

Emma Swan: I am severly pissed as both a CS fan and a fan of both Emma AND Killian that we got no real payoff. It was a great storyline that was a great ride but blew the landing. If you’re going give us a storyline as heartwrenching as the heart storyline you have to give us a good ending.

We didn’t see how they figured it out (and that could have been easily done, you just needed to pan to Emma after Anna told them about Rumple and have her say one word “Killian”. That was all. We would have been happy instead we didn’t get anything.

You didn’t give us anything, we got a 5 second scene where she just pushed the heart in, kissed him and went to have shots with Regina? No that’s not Emma Swan. That’s not the Emma Swan that cried just seeing him in the sheriff’s office before the curse, crying because she didn’t want him hurt. This isn’t the Emma Swan that pushed him away because “I can’t loose you too.”

And here she almost lost him and she got no reaction. Even A/E admitted it was because they had no time (come on I am the biggest fan of the frozen stuff but we didn’t need that last scene and we DID NOT need that operation mongoose scene that could have easily fit into 4B)

About Operation Mongoose it makes no sense that Emma would be completely okay with it?

People are gonna tell you who you are your whole life. You just gotta punch back and say, “No, this is who I am”. You want people to look at you differently? Make them. You want to change things, you’re gonna have to go out there and change them yourself, because there are no fairy godmothers in this world.

That is from Emma herself! Back in 1×04, she knows that your life is made up of the choices you make no one is pulling the strings but you. I want the author to be like are you kidding me? I’m just record-keeper you make your own choices.

The Good:

Regina: She’s seriously annoyed me this season you kow this but I loved the scene with Rumple. As critical as I am of her character, I can admit something she has changed. She still has a loooong way to go but there has actually been progress. I was actually proud of her again this episode in regards to the OQ mess.. I LOVED that she saw through Rumple she knew he hadn’t actually changed. She did the right thing and it was great.

Queens of Darkness: Yes this is both good and bad, I didn’t like how it was handled but damn I loved the women. Cruella sassing Rumple was just glorious

“Cruella I thought I caught a whif of desperation and gin”

“Do you want me to get you a stool so you can look me in the eye when you threaten me?”

Really excited for them to come and see what kind of havok they will cause. Maleficent makes me really happy for all the possibilities (plus I’ve got this theory that we will get a CS TLK in 4B and it will be bc of a sleeping curse, Maleficent is the original owner etc if you want to read it I’ll send you guys the link =)

Belle

Belle: My only problem was that they introduced a complete deux ex machina to have her find out (and it was to introduce the trio) when there were so many more logicals ways for her to find out.

Loved the scene between Henry and Belle, we need more of them together. They have such a wonderful relationship and I loved Belle’s reaction to being called grandma.

Oh if suitcases were a TARDIS our lives would be so much easier.

Belle I am so so soooo proud of you!!! I really hope they don’t retcon this. This entire speech was everything I ever wanted for Belle, because it’s Belle realizing she’s been wrong all this time. That no matter what happens he will always choose power over her. She woke up the wool has been pulled from her eyes.

From my friend’s review:

It’s so unfortunate that a woman who’s so deserving of love and gives so much needs to be betrayed in such an awful way. It’s so unfortunate that Rumple chose power over Belle. And for one to feel they aren’t enough is the most tragic thing in our world. Emilie De Ravin broke us in that scene — we’ve never been so moved by a performance of hers before, and that very scene at the town line was De Ravin at her strongest. She brought so much heart and vulnerability into a scene that truly required a great amount of emotions. This is a scene we presume was anticipated by all — in order for Rumple and Belle’s relationship to be a healthy one, the entire truth had to be exposed. Rumple needs to choose love over power. Rumple needs to choose Belle over all other things as she’s the most precious person in his life. How heartbreaking was Belle’s breakdown as she says “I just wanted you”? It’s what moved us the most because the very promise he made to Baelfire was the same promise he was attempting to make Belle, and at the end of the day, when it comes to Rumple and most villains, it’s not about what they say, it’s about what they do. As difficult as it was for Belle, she made the right decision tonight. For the first time in forever, she chose herself. She chose to live.

The most important part of the entire scene:

“I lost myself trying to help you find yourself” You guys know I’m big on self-worth. And this is so big for my precious Belle. Again something I’ve sort of experienced (not in the length Belle has but snippets) when you keep trying to help someone and continue to put their needs above yours you start loosing little parts of yourself here and there until you’re not quite sure who you are. It’s one of the things people complained about Belle, that she didn’t have much to do not regarding Rumple.

This is Belle realizing all this and being like no this is not okay I have to put myself first, because you never will.

Colin/Killian Jones:

Can we talk about Colin? Colin Colin COLIN! If anyone ever says he’s a bad actor I’m pointing them towards this scene.

Even his hand movements were rhythmically like Rumple’s. The kicker is that Rumple is trying to sound like Hook and almost succeeds. He uses Killian’s words like alas and love but he can’t stop himself from talking in his natural rhythm. It’s a slighly slower and calmer rhythm (You can tell it’s scripted by Rumple. He pauses between words because he thinks his words are more important, There is a balanced pattern of whether the ends of his words go up or down. So Colin is speaking like Hook speaking like Rumple speaking like Hook.. It’s subtle and so there and that’s what makes it sooo good to watch. The eyes, let’s talk about the eyes in this scene. No one can do eyes like Colin seriously.

His eyes man, you can see that the lights are on but no one is home, except for the moment when Hook breaks through the dark magic to grab Emma. He’s fighting for control, actually fighting, which is more than many other characters have done. His eyes flicker to life.

Same friend’s review, she explains it in another way

First and foremost, O’Donoghue playing Killian under Rumple’s command was genius — the mannerisms were on point. It takes a lot of skill to play an already established distinct character as another character and manage to bring out the right amount of emotions. O’Donoghue imitates some of Carlyle’s most subtly brilliant tactics in the scene, and if you look out for it, there honestly aren’t enough words to describe the brilliance that’s being delivered. We can’t tell what was greater, O’Donoghue’s portrayal of a Rumple-like Killian, or Killian wanting and trying to fight through Rumple’s control by holding on to Emma. O’Donoghue’s aptitudes are immeasurable.

and one final note on Killian Jones

Killian smiling at Emma moments after getting hold of his heart. You can tell everything is still sinking in. Not moments ago he thought he would never get to see her face again, feel her lips again, touch her hair again. Now it’s all over. He’s going to live. He’s going to be with her and continue to make her smile and hold her when she needs him most. And be held by her when he needs her most. I cry.

Frozen

I’m going to miss them so much, Kristoff don’t leave me, Anna don’t leave me. Frozen Swan don’t leave me (I can’t believe they keep forcing the SQ toxic friendship when we’ve got the example of a healthy wonderful friendship in frozen swan.) I know it was time for them to go but I’m going to miss them so much, and I still can’t believe we never got a Killian/Charming/Kristoff scene..

We did see Charming he had 1 line in the entire episode “Rumplestilskin” that was it.

I loved the chocolate scene but I feel like that scene was surplus? We could have gotten it as a deleted scene? I think we should have gotten a CS scene where they actually had a meaninful conversation and it would have been perfect (it didn’t even have to be a long scene)

Captain Swan:

You know my feelings over this but I did like the tiny scene we got. Those two idiots are so in love with each other you can see it in their eyes and it’s beautiful. Because Killian is so happy to have her back, he didn’t think he would ever have her back in his arms and now she’s there and he’s never letting go. Also we got Emma holding his shiny completely red heart in her hands and that was gorgeous.

I am actually excited for 4B even if it doesn’t exactly seem that way hehehe, hope you guys have a lovely christmas (or other holiday) and a wonderful new year,

Love, Maii

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Episode Number: 261

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