DisneyOnceAgain – Frozen – 239

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Podcast Episode 239

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Disney Once Again notes:

I keep thinking the opening song was from Lilo and Stitch’s Hawaiian Roller Coaster Ride.

Ice Worker’s intro great peek into the Norwegian life and the background of Kristoff and Sven, also giving clues to the story we will see.

Ice layer – breaking through. The two layers. People have use for the ice, if it’s controlled and cut to manageable pieces. The song alludes to the land’s frozen heart worth mining. Ice has magic (To preserve, stop time of decay), the song says. Watch your step, let it go! Stronger than 100 men.

The Frozen Heart (Ice Worker’s Song) lyrics
Born of cold and winter air
And mountain rain combining
This icy force both foul and fair
Has a frozen heart worth mining

Cut through the heart, cold and clear
Strike for love and strike for fear
See the beauty sharp and sheer
Split the ice apart
And break the frozen heart

Beautiful, powerful, dangerous, cold
Ice has a magic can’t be controlled
Stronger than one, stronger than ten
Stronger than a hundred men

Born of cold and winter air
And mountain rain combining
This icy force both foul and fair
Has a frozen heart worth mining

Cut through the heart, cold and clear
Strike for love and strike for fear
There’s beauty and there’s danger here
Split the ice apart
Beware the frozen heart

Little Anna is like Lady, “The skies awake, so I’m awake”.

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The little Anna and Elsa are so cute. Little Anna reminded me of Agnes in Despicable Me. Anna knows just how to get Elsa out of bed.

The empty hall became a playroom with Elsa’s ice magic. We see Olaf for the first time. We see bits of situations we will see later; Anna sliding down snowy hills, falling into snow, going from one snowy hill to another, then when Elsa slipped and couldn’t magically build a snow hill for her to land on, she quickly show an ice bolt at Anna and injured her. The hair color change is a physical sign of something deeper changing.

It’s interesting that the King knew exactly what to do and where to go. OUAT bit: The floor that the map landed on looked like the floor in Rumpel’s study. He had a book and a map to go to the trolls. Had he gone there before? Why? With who? The King mentioned that Elsa was born with the power. OUAT bit: Pabbie removed all memories of Elsa’s magic, and only leave the fun memories. There were many potions and curses in OUAT that would block or remove certain memories. Instead of learning to control

The storm scene was incredible.

The stones in the burial scene reminded me of Stonehenge or rune stones.

Kristoff’s Sven voice is funny

Open up the gates, like Willy Wonka.

All the points of most little girls; Queen, princess, coronation day, opening the gates and people from everywhere are coming to see you.

Another Princess sing a song out a window.

Elsa’s coronation outfit is very British.

First time in forever; Anna fun expectation, Elsa anxious, worry and fear.

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DisneyOnceAgain – Sleeping Beauty (1959) – 238

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Disney Once Again notes:

Note: We totally forgot to mention the Aurora or Phillip character in Once Upon a Time. Sorry about that.

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There is a storybook opening, but no Once Upon a Time in a book. However, there was Once in the title song, “Once Upon a Dream”.

In the opening narration, it mentioned, “Their (The King and Queen) wish was granted,” and Aurora was born.

Vibrant colors

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Awesome 3D look to the crowd, changing the timing of each level of horses, people etc to make it look natural (That people and animals traveled at different speeds).

A number of great flydowns with the multiplane camera.

Awesome dreamy sequences when the good fairies gave their gifts of beauty and song. Fantasia-esque (1940).

Maleficent – Evil Fairy. The Queen is afraid of Maleficent, “You’re not offended?”

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The scepter click on the floor was weird sounding.

Meriwether – A Ray of Hope. Changing death to sleep, until true love’s kiss will break the curse.

The animation is a work of art. Spinning Wheel fire. Reflections in the castle.

“Our magic doesn’t work that way”

Even walls have ears. Like mirrors in OUAT.

Turn the princess into a flower (Shadowing of Beauty and the Beast), but Maleficent will send frost.

Flora’s new plan will not include magic. Adam and Eddie get the idea from this?

Maleficent’s Forbidden Mountains – similar name to Tolkien’s Mount Doom.

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Maleficent’s goofy troops.

Maleficent told her Raven to search for a maiden with lips Red as the Rose. Another tie back to Snow White?

Another princess that cleans, and a shot through the window.

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[Corrected File] DisneyOnceAgain – Cinderella (1950) – 237

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Podcast Episode 237

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Disney Once Again notes:

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Beginning another book – Once Upon a Time

Step Mother – cold

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More multi plane camera goodness

Connection, talking and interaction with animals

If you tell a wish, it won’t come true

Have faith in your dream.

As long as you keep believing, the dream that you wish will come true.

You can change your life by believing in a secret dream.

They can’t order me to stop dreaming.

Another instance of animals helping her clean and get ready for the day. Singing as she takes a shower.

Cinderella is kind to the animals.

Jack has a creepy voice.

The animation is more cartoonish, and less like a panting come to life (Like Snow White).

LUcifer the cat. Funny.

Bruno dreaming.

Cinderella tries to find the good in people and cats.

Snow White and Cinderella wears Danish shoes.

Cinderella takes care of the family in the house and feeds all the animals.

Lucifer was like a king. Licking the milk one drop of a time.

We care about mice, instead of wanting to get rid of them.

At Disneyland, Cinderella doesn’t have a ride or attraction, but the castle yes.

“Close the door, Cinderella,” When a boss tells you to close the door, is never a good thing

The step-sisters ringing bells and calling Cinderella.

Lucifer deserved those awful step-sisters “practicing”

What a great scene fading into Cinderella singing the song.

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I love the mice making the dress, but can they put Blu Rays back in the right case?

The sash looked like toilet paper

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DisneyOnceAgain – Alice in Wonderland (1951) – 236

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Podcast Episode 236

Show notes can be found at:

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Disney Once Again notes:

To follow

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Thanks to Al and Joyce from the Tales from the Mouse House podcast for their thoughts about Alice in Wonderland

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DisneyOnceAgain – Pinocchio (1940) – 235

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Podcast Episode 235

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Disney Once Again notes:

So many Classic songs and music.

“When you wish upon a star
Makes no difference who you are
Anything your heart desires
Will come to you

If your heart is in your dream
No request is too extreme
When you wish upon a star
As dreamers do”

Wishes give an ordinary person the opportunity to be special. A wish can make everyone special.

Another beginning with a book. It begins with “Once night a long time ago…”

The “fly down” to Geppetto’s window was dark and murky, but there was another fly down coming.

Geppetto treated Pinocchio like his son. Geppetto also cared for all of his creations like his children, too. Geppetto’s “world” was created from wood, gears, etc.

The water effect (Even seeing Pinocchio walking through Cleo’s fishbowl) was incredible.

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The clocks shows violence, drunkeness, spanking, etc.

Figaro was jealous of Pinocchio, like Tinkerbell was of Wendy.

Geppetto was smoking in bed.

Geppetto’s Wish was that Pinocchio to be a real boy. Jiminy initially had not faith/belief in Geppetto’s wish “What a lovely thought, but not practical”.

When Jiminy screamed for everything to be quite, he stopped all the clocks. No one will wake up on time.

The Blue Fairy (partially granted) Wish #1 – She gave Pinocchio life, but didn’t make him a real boy, yet.

The Blue Fairy told Pinocchio to be “Brave, Truthful and Unselfish”

I want to thank Todd and Kristen from the Walt Sent Me Podcast for their thoughts on Pinocchio. Please check out their podcast

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DisneyOnceAgain – Peter Pan (1953) – 234

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Podcast Episode 234

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Disney Once Again notes:

No “Once Upon a Time” opening from a book.

We see a beautifully recreated London. In a way, it was like taking us there. It was a real place, not a Fairy Tale place.

Peter Pan chose the house because they believed. This was a special group of children that believed. It could have been any group, but he chose them.

Children still believe in magic, adults don’t. They’ve grown out of belief.

Nana gave the kids tonic. I used to have to take Cod Liver Oil. Did Peter Pan give my parents this idea?

Kids play fun games with dangerous things; Pointed wooden swords and hangers swinging at each other. Plus they’re jumping on the bed. We never were allowed to jump on the bed.

Children teach us to have fun in the moment, today.

They drew a Treasure Map on the Mr. Darling’s shirt front.

Geocaching and letter boxing is a bit of treasure hunting today.

Mr. Darling explaining that there is a difference between stories and reality, but in this story – belief made this story true.

Moving Wendy out of the nursery and to her own room is a physical move from being a child to an adult. Mr. Darling wanted to remove her from the nursery (The land a childlike belief to adult practicality)

Poor Nana. Nana had a lot of jobs in the Darling home, but one little tripping issue over the blocks and out she goes.

“Everybody has to grow up”

Can’t you still be an adult and still have a childlike belief.

This animated movie had so much imagination; Flying to a magical island, shadows that separate from a body, etc.

The music was Classic Disney music.

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This was the first, male Peter Pan.

A Tink with depth and flaws. Tink is a like a mood ring. She changes colors based on her mood.

Peter Pan wasn’t very kind to Wendy, “Girls talk too much”, etc.

Peter tells Wendy “You can be our Mother”. Even though Peter Pan made a place for Lost Boys who stay young, believe in magic, he knew that something was missing, a Mother figure. Someone to care for and nurture the group.

Notice that Big Ben was on 8:15, the same as the clock in Storybrooke

We get a fly over of London

The pirates were very piratey and not Disney “family friendly”;

Captain Hook: [grabbing Smee] I’ve got it! Tiger Lily, Smee!
Mr. Smee: [nervously] T-T-Tiger Lily, Captain?
Captain Hook: The chief’s daughter. She’ll know where Pan is hiding.
Mr. Smee: B-B-But-But will she talk, Captain?
Captain Hook: Oh, a little persuasion might be in order. Now let me see… Boiling in oil? Uh, keelhauling? Eh, marooning?

Later on when Tink gives up the location of Peter Pan’s hideout (Hangman’s Tree)

Captain Hook: [about to lower a bomb into Peter Pan's hideout] And now, Smee, to take care of master Peter Pan.
Mr. Smee: But, Captain, wouldn’t it be more humane-like to slit his throat?
Captain Hook: Aye, that it would, Mr Smee. But I have given me word not to lay a finger, or a hook, on Peter Pan. And Captain Hook never breaks a promise.

Cannibal Cove

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Hook shot and killed the accordion player

The animation was so good

I love the pirates, because they came from all over the world, even Sweden.

When you fly with Peter Pan, that also means you can float and stand on clouds.

Tinkerbell treated flying like swimming in the air.

Lost Boys, Hook and Peter Pan speak Tink.

Tink was very mean. She told the Lost Boys to shoot down Wendy. Mean Tink.

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Hook was pretty sneaky. He kidnapped Tigerlilly, but the Indians thought the Lost Boys did.

Mermaids really liked Peter Pan, but they were mean to Wendy, too. They tried to drown her.

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There were live mermaids at Disneyland, too.

Peter Pan would have been a great ventriloquist, they way he threw his voice.

We didn’t get much explanation about crowing, but Peter Pan did crow a number of times.

Skull Rock.

There used to be a Skull Rock and Pirate Ship at Disneyland.

Great sword fights.

Wendy, lucky to not get shot our of the sky, drowned or eaten by the crocodile after walking the plank, was the moral voice of the movie.

Smee is a busy body, he hears everything and is perfect to use in dialogue exposition and move the story ahead.

Pan brings peace to the land by returning Tigerlilly.

Hook manipulates Tink. Different than the OUAT show Hook.

Those in Never Never Land forgot their Mother.

Smee and the other pirates (not Hook) were crying at the Your Mother and Mine song.

Smee brings out Hook’s “Sunday Best” hooks. Golden hooks.

Margaret Kerry’s website: Tinkerbell Talks

Thanks to Richard and Sarah from Skywalking Through Neverland for allowing us to include a snippet of their interview with Margaret Kerry and they included thoughts of their own about Peter Pan.

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DisneyOnceAgain – Robin Hood (1973) – 233

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Podcast Episode 233

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Robin Hood show notes

Alan-a-Dale referred to the song he sang as a folk song, but its sounded an awful lot like a country song to me.

Folk music was big at the time, so maybe referring to a folk song might related better to the early 1970’s audience?

Prince John was comedically evil.

The snake face animation was incredible showing the 3d look of the face as it turned.

It was interesting to see the Prince with psychological problems. Pretty bold for a Disney cartoon. Seemed a bit like the Smother’s Brothers.

Robin Hood and Little John are master’s of disguise.

Little John made a Medieval Haunted Mansion floating crystal ball.

We see another mirror in a Disney animated film (Snow White, Beauty and the Beast and (so far) this one).

Robin Hood is a reflection of Hope for tough times, like Once Upon a Time shows.

It was a great choice of all the animals for all the characters.

Great kid voices for the bunnies and turtle.

What is “Oo De Lally”???

Boob jokes – in a Disney movie???

You will go from an Outlaw to a Hero, like the storylines of Season 3 of Once Upon a Time.

Friar Tuck kept sipping Robin Hood’s burnt stew – Ewww.

Lots of late 60’s, early 70’s vernacular and music (Hip Daddy Cat music).

Lots of marching.

Tail spinning and arrow flying by sounds made by a person? Maybe a you Ben Burtt? just kidding

We see one crossbow in a movie filled with regular bows and arrows

It was so great to see how the animals took care of each other, even when they were in jail, and when the church mouse gave her last coin for the church poor box.

Sir Hiss was Prince John’s second in command, but Once Upon a Time baddies have no second in commands.

Prince John’s guards shoot arrows like Stormtroopers shoot laser beams.

Little John dressed up in a disguise like a 70’s Pimp Daddy (with a cane, even)

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DisneyOnceAgain – Beauty and the Beast – 232

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Podcast Episode 232

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Another animated Disney film that starts with “Once Upon a Time”

BATB is basically a morality play teaching a lesson about not being selfish

Never judge a book by its cover. Books are Belle’s treasures.

Belle mentions she was reading a book about beanstalks and ogres.

Another theme is that reading makes you a hero.

The opening song that also serves as exposition of the story.

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Gaston says he wants Belle because she’s beautiful, but there are other beautiful women in town, maybe he sees Belle for more than beauty?

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The wolf chase scenes were chilling.

There is a classic horror film look to some of the scenes; the gate, the castle, etc.

The Beast entrance was scary, as well.

Belle breaks many stereotypes; She says no to marrying the strongest man, she reads, she wants adventure instead of staying at home.

Belle bold sacrifice – “Take me instead (of my father)”.

The Beast wants her to stay forever (like Rumpel said in OUAT).

Another classic horror story motif, the hunting party (or mob).

Lots of classic Battle (or Misunderstanding) of the Sexes moments; Men can’t eat or handle their temper properly.

The Be our Guest song was very Esther Williams and Busby Berkley pool or dancing number.

(below) Picture of Busby Berkley section in Hollywood Studios’ Great Movie Ride

Even dishes, chairs and lamps have destinies.

We are shown an animated conflict resolution.
“If you didn’t…”
“If you had…”
“Thank you…for saving me”
“You’re welcome”

Ripping the shades of the windows.

He’s No Prince Charming.

Hunters are bad. At least that’s one of themes of the film is.

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DisneyOnceAgain – Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs – 231

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“Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs” (1937)

Podcast Episode 231

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The multi-plane filming made you feel that you were crawling into these beautiful backgrounds.

For a Disney “Family-friendly” film, there were many scary and violent parts to it.

Opening with the Evil Queen section was a bold story choice, instead of the subject of the film.

The animal and dwarf animation and jokes were so perfect.

Snow White’s goodness balanced the Evil Queen’s evil, and yet they lived in the same castle.

The story showed the Evil Queen’s 2 attempts at ending Snow White’s life. We get the whole story, and not just a linear story.

The emotion of the Huntsman and Snow White scene was perfect relayed.

Part of the film was a time capsule of a time when you could have fun; cleaning a house, making a pie and singing and dancing together. You didn’t need things, you just need to be together.

Once Upon a Time connections –

A Magical Book opens the film and the text “Once Upon a Time” started it all.

The huntsman scene with Snow White was very similar.

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3X22 There’s No Place Like Home – Main Show – 230

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Episode Number: 230

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in the terms of the musical episode.. Colin was in a band called the enemies so that’s another one =)

Plus Jane Epenson worked on BTVS which has the best musical ep of all time so it would be done right

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does anyone else think that Neal might come back now that Prince Neal’s name has been revealed?

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Okay so just three things really bugged me about this episode. I really don’t like that they brought back Robin’s wife. I totally get that Regina will go through some kind of trial because love isn’t easy but this just makes it feel really awkward. It’s almost like they were running out of ideas so they decided to do this. Also I don’t like how they changed the past. I thought that the pilot was so unique and it just hooked me the first time I watched it but now it just feels wrong. And finally, Frozen. This is what mainly is making me upset. Frozen hasn’t been out for a whole year yet; yet they are using it? I feel like the show has “jumped the shark” This is my favorite show of all time and I just hope they are careful. On a happier note, Prince Neal. No words. Just perfection.

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What if the new realm we visit in season four is Camelot and Snow and Charming name their son Arthur and he becomes King Arthur?

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Okay so my email was getting long so I knew I had to put my thoughts on that final CS scene elsewhere
J- The Hero, and the No Longer Lost Girl and the Price.
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Believe that a pirate can be a hero
Believe that a lost girl can find her way home
Those 2 where culminated in that scene, he’s her hero, he’s a hero and most importantly he’s her home and she is his. Those lost souls the abandoned lost boy and the lost girl neither had a good life but now they’ve found a home in each other.
She thanks him for coming back to NY and then she asks him how he did it and he tells her how he outran the curse (I’m one hell of a captain) I was all for her finding out and when it happened I literally texted Lexi IT’S HAPPENING and I’m so glad they did the reveal after Emma realized what home to her was.
Killian: They are if you’ve got something of value to trade
Emma: and what was that?
Killian: Why the Jolly Roger of course
Emma: You traded your ship for me?
Killian: Aye
This scene is so meaningful and my favorite in the entire 2 hrs of the finale. Because Killian Jones is not one to admit it when he does things right (remember back in good form?) and this time he admits it knowing he can’t deny anything anymore. It wasn’t just his life it was his home it’s where the last memories of Milah and Liam are.. and he traded it all for her. And the look on her face, this is a person who’s not used to people putting her first and there’s this infuriating man who not only puts her first but he doesn’t run away from her when she pushes him away and he always comes back to her. He traded his home so that he could bring her home. That’s the moment her walls completely fall down at his feet. It’s such a beautiful moment and I’m still not over it.
The kiss in Neverland focuses on Killian’s expressions bc this is the moment he realizes he’s falling for her but in this kiss the camera focuses on Emma’s face. This is the moment she realizes she’s found her home.
The reason there aren’t enough words to describe this kiss is because of how immaculate it truly is. It was about coming home to each other and accepting that no matter what life throws at them they’ve got someone to perpetually lean on, to grow with, and to challenge themselves with.
In the beginning of the season we saw Captain Jones stealing the Jolly Roger because of the lost of the most important person in his life (Liam) and now we saw him trading the Jolly Roger to get back to the most important person in his life (Emma)
When we met, I wasn’t just unloved and unloving. I was an enemy of love. Love had only brought me pain. My walls were up, but you brought them down. You brought me home.
This is so beautiful because it fits both of them so well because they were both enemies of love. Emma because of the pain Neal had left her in and Killian because of losing Milah and later Emma (Love brings nothing but wasted years and endless torment – The Jolly Roger).. Love had only brought them pain whether it was by losing who they loved or be being betrayed by them. Both of their walls were up in the sky and yet both of them brought them down. Killian brought down Emma’s walls just like Emma brought down Hook’s. From the first moment they met, they felt the connection and here it was made real. There was no running away and it was beautiful.
Plus their smiles, their smiles say it all.. When was the last time we saw either of them that happy? I don’t quite remember.. But the joy in their faces is there and they are both smiling as they pull away and yet they go back to kissing because now that the line has been crossed they don’t want to stop. For two people (mostly Emma) not big on PDA they are making out in front of Granny’s and yet they don’t care bc they have each other and that’s all they need.
Both of them were lost and found a home with each other, because there’s no place like home… *I’m not crying, you’re crying* ok yes I still cry every time I see this scene and I might have cried writing this..they’ve come such a long way and for someone who’s loved them since before they met (I thought they were going to be a crackship and started shipping them since before the crocodile aired) this is quite the pay off..
Hope you guys are having a lovely week!
Evil Panda

Hello Jeff and Colleen first of all, I wanted to say that I love your podcast and your inputs on each episode and secondly, I would like to apologize in advance for this long email. So you could summarize it if you want. Lol. I loved the episode and the surprise ending (assuming that person in the surprise ending is who the majority of the fans think she is) but hated the not so surprising ending with Regina.

I have two things that I wanted to get both of your opinions on. Maybe it’s just because I’ve been Team Regina since season 1, but was I the only one that was wondering why Hook was giving Emma credit for everything that happened before the finale?
I mean if you think about it, Regina and Rumpel did most of the heavy lifting. Regina was the one who saved Henry in Neverland, saved the town from Pans Curse, broke Zelenas/Snowings Curse, and stopped her.
And Rumpel was the one who killed both Pan and Zelena. All Emma really did was bring Henry back into town.
Have Regina and Rumpel become the Iron Man and Hulk to Emma’s Captain America?
Lol. Also, did you catch the part where Snow mentioned Cora and Daniel during her scene with Regina? It sounded like Snow might’ve known about Cora killing Daniel, but I thought that Snow technically didn’t even know truth about what happened to Daniel until Regina tells her later in the timeline in An Apple Red as Blood?

Email points:

Amy

I’m one of the odd ones that is excited about the season 4 being Frozen, but i do not think it will be frozen as we know it. Frozen was very loosely based on a fairy tale titled the Ice Queen and I think they will likely use more from that. That way they can use the name recognition from Frozen to draw in new viewers and still have a morally grey “Elsa” without making Disney’s Elsa evil. I’m sure they will have a lot of Disney Frozen jokes (like they did with Ariel) but i think/hope that’s about as far as they go with it.
Love the show,
Amy

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Lorie

I haven’t emailed yet this season, but I have been listening. I liked this season so much better than last season in Neverland. However, I was so disappointed with the ending. I knew changing the fate of the woman in the jail was a bad idea, but I never expected that it would be Maid Marion. I was so happy for Regina. Finally found her happy ending and a new love of her life. Then for it to end that way. I just wanted to scream. I already hate Marion on about the same level that Coleen hated Tamara in the Neverland season. I just want her gone. Also, from the scenes in the jail and forest, she did not seems as if she was a character that I liked very well. I don’t know what it was about her, but I just did not like her.

At the end when Regina confronted Emma and said lets just hope that’s all you brought back, my first thought was that she was implying that Emma needs to hope that by bringing Marion back and causing her to lose Robin, that this does not bring back the Evil Queen. So that statement may have had a double meaning.

As to what/who Emma did bring back, I was trying to think of Evil sorceresses/witches/etc who would be associated with ice. It was mentioned that when Glinda was banished north and they went through the door, it looked like a Narnia reference. Wonder if this is the queen from that land.

I tried to think of fairy tale lands. We have done enchanted forest, neverland, and oz. I don’t think we will have Wonderland and Agraba since they did that in the Once Upon a Time in Wonderland series. So Narnia seems to be a good land to go to. I don’t know if they will go the Frozen angel as this is a relatively new show and not everyone will be familiar with that story. I think they will stick more to the tried and true stories that are older and most people will have knowledge of.

Cant wait for next season,
Lorie

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Lorie

Well I just looked it up and I guess we are going to get Frozen for season 4. Will be a new experience for me and my friends that watch this as none of us have seen Frozen.

Coleen, we need a hiatus update-since you have seen Frozen, give us a quick podcast rundown of the story. Just an idea.

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Maii

Hellooo guys! How are you? The joy of this finale (and the fact that I had my last wk of school for the rest of my life..no more credits left to do, college is over! finally..)

This was my favorite ep of the finale it was gorgeous and it was perfect and I literally could not breathe after it and I think I’ve watched it more times than I can count (prob more than is healthy oh well).. and seriously my voice was this high pitch mess for like half an hr after it ended and I thought it was hilarious (well my bff lexi thought it was hilarious bc I was sending her voice recordings in whatsapp) bc I literally couldn’t form words and I just kept rocking back and forth.

I loved killian’s inclusion in the scenes.. “My Princess” I died I won’t lie.

“My princess” — this wasn’t a necessary statement that’d served the plot as he could’ve said something along the lines of Princess Leia or someone I know. But the importance of saying my princess shows that she’s just that to Killian. Since the moment they’ve met he’s been captivated by every part of her being, the orphan, the pirate, the badass, the savior, and even the inner princess she’s never felt she was. He’s seen it all, welcomed and adored it all. And to him, this very moment was his way of not showing possession but illuminating the utmost pride he has in merely knowing her.

Captain Charming

I loved this scene so much and I need them to touch back on this conversation later.
“I’d go to the ends of the world for her, or time” and Charming giving him his blessing unknowingly and Killian’s “I hope you remember that”

At the end of the day, Killian’s the only man Charming’s ever formed a bond with — the only man he’s gotten to know outside of the dwarves and townspeople. The conversations that they’ve shared are things he hasn’t had with anyone else, and the significance behind the reasoning is that Killian’s essentially Emma’s true love. And while no one will ever be good enough for his baby girl, Killian’s the only man whose heart he knows. Even though he didn’t know in the moment, what man wouldn’t appreciate another for declaring that he’d go to the ends of the world and time for a woman he loves. It also served to demonstrate that no matter where or how the two men meet, they’re bound to form a friendship because of how similar they are.

The rescue scene was perfect because it reminded us that while Emma can save herself, Killian will always come back for her.

Their reactions were perfect like Swan what are you doing, you’re making me look bad in front of my mate.

Snow gets “burned” at the stake

All of Emma’s life, every battle, hardship, moment she needed a shoulder to cry on, no one was there. Not until now.

Emma is about to watch her own Mother burn at the stake, right in front of her eyes. When Killian figures out what is about to happen, he immediately grabs her and pulls her in close to him. Not slow, not cautiously, but instinctively, protectively and quick. She’s about to experience the hardest, heart wrenching moment in her life, and all he can do is hold her. It’s protective, it’s his instinct. He loves her so much, and when he sees what’s about to happen, he holds her as tight as he can, not to let her know things are gonna be okay, but to let her know she is NOT going through this one alone, that he is right there, right beside her, holding her. His heart is breaking for her, but he’s not gonna let her fall. When she breaks, he will be right there to hold her together. It’s just truly a very beautiful moment. I cry.

and then later in the woods the scene continues to be beautiful

How beautiful is it that Killian didn’t even think twice before opening up his old wounds to comfort her and make sure she doesn’t give into darkness? A man who brushed off the death of his brother, when she asked him to open up about it and talk to her. These two literally kill me and Colin/Jen were so beautiful with their expressions.

There is so much sincerity with the way Killian is comforting her and there is so much gratitude in Emma’s eyes towards Killian for just being there and trying…even know they both know nothing would make her feel better.

When Snow didn’t recognize her Killian went to her and wiped her tears and it was a truly beautiful moment

Emma seeing Snowing falling in love
“It’s okay Swan not everyone gets the chance to watch their parents fall in love”

This moment right here is so important. This is the moment that Emma Swan, a woman who has been abandoned and betrayed countless time in her life, realizes how much she cares for Killian Jones. She’s just witnessed her parents falling in love and that raw, undeniable emotion has awoken her senses. You can see in the way that she looks at him, shyly glancing at him to gauge his reaction to the scene unfolding in front of them. She has just realized that the man standing next to her has never once let her down. From the moment they met they had a connection and since then he’s unfailingly been by her side – supporting her, encouraging her, believing in her when she didn’t even believe in herself. He’s made his feelings known to her on several occasions but never until now did she fully accept that those feelings were mutual. This man quite literally crossed through realms and time to be with her and that scares the hell out of her – you can see in her eyes that she’s terrified to open herself up to someone else for fear of being hurt yet again. But also there, behind the fear, is hope. Because for the first time in a very long time she just knows that she has someone – someone who would do everything and more for her; someone who would never let her down; someone who, if she allowed him to, would be her home. And for Emma Swan, a woman who has been searching tirelessly for a place to call home from the moment she was brought into this world, that is everything. Her eyes are completely full of awe and adoration in this shot, all directed at him, as she finally accepts that she is in love with Killian Jones: the man, the pirate, the hero.
We are told that true love is powerful enough to transcend realms and break any curse. But for Emma Swan, the power of her parents’ true love is able to show her that she, herself, is capable of love and how happy it could make her. And I think that’s beautiful.

Using a quote from a review from “http://mgcircles.com/post/85548221326/once-upon-a-time-3×21-snow-drifts-and-3×22-theres” to describe this scene

When it comes to Jennifer Morrison’s portrayal of Emma, there are not enough words to describe the amount of emotions she’s able to inflict upon the viewers through her realistically passionate depictions. By her portrayal Morrison’s made Emma the kind of character that no matter the occasion, whether happy or sad, when she cries, we cry. Morrison’s delivery of the lines above were masterful – the childlike innocence and loneliness she projected through the expressions that justified her words broke her free from the chains in her past as she chose to fight for the people she loves most. And what also made the scene profoundly gorgeous, was the wondrously poignant smile she wore when Emma notices Killian’s pride in her. This was the moment where Emma truly saw just how proud he is of exactly who she is, and it’s the moment where she begins to see herself as he does. O’Donoghue has always brought forth Killian’s utmost sincerity to life remarkably as his portrayal has allowed the audience to feel Killian’s unwavering love and support for Emma.

Her magic came back because she finally accepted who she was and it was beautiful and the proud and joyous look on Killian’s face when he tells her to look down and see the wand is priceless.

I don’t know why Neal because honestly Snowing didn’t know him at all, they shared at most 2 scenes and it’s a bit weird to name your son after your daughter’s ex boyfriend is kinda weird and creepy, I would have preferred Graham or something else but it was still better than the alternative.

Although I am laughing at the fact that if Emma is Leia and Killian is Han does that make Neal, Luke…because he is technically her brother now?

Outlaw Queen

Guys this is actually a good thing! I’ve been saying this since OQ got together it was too fast too easy I knew the angst was coming. Every other couple has had to face obstacles, Rumbelle, Snowing, Captain Swan has had troubles since they met back in early season 2 it was obvious they would get angst too.. “True love isn’t easy but it must be fought for” “the course of true love never did run smooth”. This is giving them both a chance to prove their love can withstand the obstacles and it will be beautiful.

Emma saved an innocent woman from a probably horrible death.. She didn’t save her bc she’s the savior but bc she’s her parents daughter she’s a good person who would never leave an innocent to die. I have faith in Regina, she’s going to realize that Emma did the right thing and hell she didn’t throw a fireball at her or anything! Progress!

This is the same as MM/David/Kathryn.. Robin is the one that will need to make a choice and we’ll get development on his part. We’ll get to see if Regina’s redemption is true or just a smoke screen. Regina had MURDERED Marian, her boyfriend’s first wife…That was going to come up eventually and I don’t think OQ could get through that.

Robin going to her when he saw her was a normal reaction, he thought she was dead for 30 years, Roland saw his mother again their reaction was perfectly understandable .. And they spent the entire season
..
The scene with the charmings is so beautiful bc one year later (technically 2 bc of lost yr) and she’s finally calling them mom and dad and I was just like blown away by the emotions…

Once she was home, with her son, with her parents, with her family, Emma was still missing Hook in the dinner, that she looked back and saw, someone is missing.
You never know it’s home until you miss it, and she felt his absence, more than once during the different episodes, and in this one, she felt his absence next to her, she missed him.
He’s her home.

Emma meta

http://emmaducklingswan.tumblr.com/post/85557099409/the-beautiful-swan-an-emma-swan-meta


I’m not much of a rumbelle fan both their vows destroyed me, and they fit each of their couples so well.. these are OUATs endgame couples. It was such a beautiful moment and the score by Mark Isham was breathtaking (Called True Love’s Theme)

Sometimes the best book has the dustiest jacket and sometimes the best tea cup is chipped..

As always lovely hearing you guys!

Love, Maii

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Chuck

Ahoy Jeff, Colleen, and Lady
The season finale was great.
It’s great to see that Emma finally feels she has a home – what a long journey to get to this point. Regina has also been on a long journey, and appears (up until the last 5 minutes of the show) had everything she wanted, family and love. But of course, we need drama, so why not throw a monkey wrench into Regina’s happy ending by bringing Robin’s wife into the story! Poor Regina. I really can’t see Regina slipping back into her old evil ways. So it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Emma appears happy now, as she has a home, a family, is in the book, and has her man (Hook). It was nice to see her smiling at the end. It doesn’t seem she gets to do that much.
I was thinking about season three overall, and I still believe the #1 biggest moment/reveal had to be the scene where Malcolm transforms into his younger self and is revealed to be Peter Pan, as poor little Rumple watches on. Wow, that was heart wrenching and a huge surprise. My favorite Regina quip of the season: “and what, you’ll win her over with your rainbow kisses and unicorn stickers”. Classic Regina, and I couldn’t image anyone else delivering that line other than Lana.
Season four is looking to be really “cool”.
Summer’s almost here, so put your toes in the sand, kick back, and enjoy some cocktails, or pirate rum, with good friends.
Cheers,
Chuck

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Hello Jeff & Colleen,

I believe Adam and Eddie used their own version of “follow the lady” mis-direction on us in these final two episodes. I was totally focused on trying to figure out who the mystery woman Emma saved could be. I just assumed she was going to be vital in the story of whoever was going to be the next big bad to face our Storybrooke characters next season. So I never really paid much attention to the significance of the urn Hook picked up. In fact, even after viewing the episode a second time, I did not see that urn get pulled off the table and into the portal. When we got the shot of it laying in the dirt in the barn and popping open to release the liquid inside, I was definitely surprised that the apparent villain had nothing to do with the mystery lady. And even more so when I realized who the new character would be since I would never have guessed they would go with so recent a Disney character as Elsa. But it makes perfect sense for them to do so when they can capitalize on the current popularity of Frozen and possibly pull in more viewers & higher ratings for ONCE.

I had to laugh when you called the liquid blue character the “blue terminator” in your podcast because, frankly, that is exactly what it looked like to me as well. I assume that the CGI artists were trying to go for a look of water on the point of freezing, but I don’t think they quite succeeded.

After the episode aired, I finally watched Frozen. Hate to say it but I was underwhelmed by the movie’s music, the way the lead female characters were drawn and the fact there is no memorable evil villain. I could go on, but that’s for a different podcast. My main point is, in the movie, Elsa is not an evil character, just a sad, misunderstood girl who shuts herself off from her sister and the world. So, if Eddie and Adam are setting her up to be the next “big bad” to set foot in Storybrooke, are they going to put a different spin on her character to take her to the dark side as they did with Peter Pan? I would say from the way she ripped off those blue gloves and flicked out her hand with a spurt of ice she is none too happy so Storybrooke is in for a long cold & icy winter!

Note to Jeff: Not that I am pushing for a musical episode, but “Buffy, the Vampire Slayer” did a one to great effect.

Even though you said you were disappointed at the ending, Jeff, happy endings make for boring story-lines so they have to write conflicts and road-blocks for our characters in order to keep things exciting and us tuning in every week.

Finally, I really want to THANK YOU, Jeff and Colleen, for all of your efforts to put out such an enjoyable and entertaining podcast. Now-a-days, everyone leads very hectic lives so for you to make the time and the work to put out a twice-weekly podcast for us ONCE fans is VERY much appreciated!!! Your podcast adds so much to my enjoyment of the show. I do so look forward to hearing not only you, Jeff and Colleen, but also fans like Brad and Mye, who always have such thoughtful and humorous comments to add. THANK YOU! HAVE A WONDERFUL SUMMER!! And I am sure we will all be waiting in great anticipation for the next season of ONCE. (That’s such a long time for me to wait for my “Hook fix”!!!)

Your Captain/Swan-shipping podcast fan,
Marilyn

P.S. My first-mate, Max, sends his regards to Lady!

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Brad
Hello Jeff and Colleen, this is a bittersweet moment as we say goodbye to season 3. Here are the things I learned in the episode There’s No Place Like Home.

#1. It’s all about the tumblers baby!

#2. The caterers who were hired to
cook the mutton for the ball,
need to be fired.

#3. A man should never be deprived
of a dashing rescue.

#4. Don’t upset Snow while she’s
carrying small or sharp objects.

#5. The Blue Fairy is fluent in bug.

#6. Someone needs to make Marian
quietly disappear. Maybe Ashley
Boyd can help her out with that.

#7. It takes a hell of a captain to out
run a curse.

#8. Hitting a person in the head with
a log is the quickest way to end
a disagreement.

#9. Snow has been cursed,
poisoned, stabbed and set on
fire by Regina.

#10. Elsa doesn’t look like she’s in
Storybrooke to build a
snowman.

OBSERVATIONS:

Emma stated in Snow Drifts that she didn’t see herself in the book, only fairytales. It was awesome to see that by the end of There’s No Place Like Home, she actually found her place in the book, in more ways than one.

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Hook has been in Storybrooke since season 2, yet he has no idea who Ruby is when confronted by her in the Enchanted Forest. He should’ve slipped up like Emma did when she saw Belle and Regina.

Regina says you better hope to hell you didn’t bring anything “else” back. Just a coincidence of words?

Speaking of Elsa, I believe that she will be a villain but not because she wants to be. She was trapped in Rumple’s vault which is where he kept the magic that was too dark and unpredictable. I don’t know about her being too dark but definitely unpredictable and misunderstood. If she lived a life of concealing her powers and hiding her feelings, then this may be the first time she is free. Now in the future, with no family, who can she trust? She may appear to be a villain, who is actually trying to protect herself. I’m looking forward to seeing how Frozen is woven in. I think it’s the perfect storyline for Once Upon A Time.

The wand that Cinderella’s Fairy Godmother had was the one taken by Robin in Lacey. It has also been
in many other scenes including Gold’s dream, when he used it to turn Henry into porcelain. However, it was not the wand given to Emma by Rumpel. This was actually the black fairy’s wand.

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A lot of people think that having Marian in the jail cell was inconsistent with the story. They incorrectly believe that Marian died because of her sickness. What actually happened was, while Marian was pregnant, Robin stole a wand from Rumpel’s castle to heal her (This would be the wand from the episode, The Price of Gold) She delivers Rolan but somehow dies years later, which Robin says is his fault.

If you downloaded the episodes from Itunes, the opening card for Snow Drifts and There’s No Place Like Home both show Zelena’s time portal but the live version had a Swan title in between both episodes.

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When I first saw Gold and Belle’s wedding I was so distracted by him lying to Belle that I looked right past the wedding and didn’t appreciate it at all. I was frustrated with him and thought the wedding was just a show. It wasn’t until I went back and watched it a second time that I realized their wedding vows were being visualized by each couple. The way Rumple and Belle looked at each other made me realize he really meant the words he said and may even be ashamed of what he has done. The vows, the beautiful music and happy couples would have been a perfect place to end the season but the show needed a “hook” to lead into season 4.

We all know that Michael Socha will be in season 4. My thoughts are that he may first appear in flashbacks to Robin’s backstory that bring him into the present.

I really liked Dave from Michigan’s theory on your Kansas podcast about how Emma would change something in the past and it would effect the future, such as Henry never being born or Graham still being alive. Rumpel called it the ripple effect. This is where a small change at one point can result in large differences in a later state. It was weird that after all the things they changed, everything was exactly the same when they got back. So in essence, there really was no ripple effect at all. It’s the one part of Back To The Future I really wish they had included because there were so many different ways they could’ve went with it.

I can’t see Robin leaving Marian but I also can’t see him just leaving Regina. Maybe we’ll finally get that love triangle we were cheated out of with Hook and Neal.

I thought the baby being named Neal was very appropriate. Neal saved the town and the baby’s life. This was a great way to honor him and make sure his ultimate sacrifice would never be forgotten.

THEORIES:

The fate of Maid Marian

#1. What if Zelena was somehow able to stay alive and was transported into Marian’s body. Seeing as how Regina ruined her plans, she may have went for the next best thing, sweet revenge.

#2. Neal told Emma that there are no
coincidences. Everything happens by design, and there’s nothing we can do about it because forces greater than us conspire to make it happen. Regina and Robin are soulmates and were supposed to be together before he met Marian. So whether it was fate or destiny, something caused Marian to lose her life so that Regina and Robin could be together. Now that the past has been changed, the forces that be, must put things back the way they are meant to happen. A flying monkey, a porcelain statue or being turned into a bug, all would suffice.

BURNING QUESTIONS:

Why did Robin need a second chance? Was this something that Marian will have a hard time forgiving him over?

We are led to believe that Regina killed Marian but wouldn’t Robin know that? How did Marian actually die and was Robin really to blame?

– Brad

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