Darkness on the Edge of Town Review – First Thoughts

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Darkness on the Edge of Town Review – First Thoughts

Episode Number: 263

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“Darkness On The Edge Of Town”
by Bruce Springsteen

They’re still racing out at the Trestles,
But that blood it never burned in her veins,
Now I hear she’s got a house up in Fairview,
And a style she’s trying to maintain.
Well, if she wants to see me,
You can tell her that I’m easily found,
Tell her there’s a spot out ‘neath Abram’s Bridge,
And tell her, there’s a darkness on the edge of town.

Everybody’s got a secret, Sonny,
Something that they just can’t face,
Some folks spend their whole lives trying to keep it,
They carry it with them every step that they take.
Till some day they just cut it loose
Cut it loose or let it drag ‘em down,
Where no one asks any questions,
or looks too long in your face,
In the darkness on the edge of town.

Some folks are born into a good life,
Other folks get it anyway, anyhow,
I lost my money and I lost my wife,
Them things don’t seem to matter much to me now.
Tonight I’ll be on that hill ’cause I can’t stop,
I’ll be on that hill with everything I got,
Lives on the line where dreams are found and lost,
I’ll be there on time and I’ll pay the cost,
For wanting things that can only be found
In the darkness on the edge of town.

Ursula and Cruella summoned to Maleficent’s Forbidden Fortress by a mysterious person (That rhymes with KumpelGilskin). It’s a classic “gather the participants together” tropes (Like the movie “Murder on the Orient Express” or “Clue”). Was the summon note written in magical squid ink, I wonder?

Cruella breaths magical smoke to beguile or enchant creatures.

Cruella’s Hell hounds?

8:15 going to 8:16 again.

Starting over – again.

Things are Changing in Storybrooke theme.

Henry is back at school. Henry taking the bus. Regina is letting go of the control of Henry. Good steps for Regina.

We see Snow teaching what appears to be High School students. We see notes about birds on the chalkboard and she is holding a bird on her finger, which hearkens back to the Pilot.

Regina returns to the Mayor’s office. She “hotly” removes the picture Snow put up.

Granny is Neal’s babysitter.

Emma suits up and grabs the Sheriff’s badge to reclaim that role.

Hook gets Emma coffee to start her day. Very progressive.

We see that Gold’s Pawn Shop is Closed.

Hook is very frustrated about the Fairies being trapped in the hat, and especially the fact that he had a hand in it.

Belle let’s him know that between the internet and “the finest minds in the world,” they would find a way to rescue the Fairies from the magical hat.

Rumple is living in New York, sponging off Ursula to put his plan together to return to Storybrooke.

It appears that Cruella’s husband is being apprehended for some kind of crime the FBI is involved with. Tax Evasion?

Cruella Feinberg.

Cruella lost all she had, like Rumpel and Ursulla (Maleficent, too). Maybe the similarity of the group’s plight, might help the Queens of Darkness join in with Rumpel’s plan.

Rumpel being outside of Storybrooke was more boring than I was expected. I wanted him to get back to Storybrooke (so did he, I’ll bet). :)

Rumpel talks about Heroes and Villians in the storybook getting their “just desserts”. He wants to change the odds. He hasn’t learned that if someone could, they already would have. His ego will be another element that will be his undoing.

Mr. Clucks (a nod to Lost) makes an appearance.

I love the fact that with as much power as the three evil characters had wielded in Fairy Tale Land, now they are stuck in a drive through to eat drive through chicken.

Emma, on the other hand, is trying to eat healthier with a (Non-Granny’s) Kale salad.

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Heroes and Villains Further Discussion – 4X12 – 262

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Episode Number: 262

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We will play part 2 of the VM message from Abby Ross who played Young Emma

News:

Ernie Hudson has been cast as King Triton

Joanna Garcia Swisher will return as Ariel per http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/once-upon-a-time-joanna-garcia-swisher-ariel-return-1201380663/

Eion Bailey will return as August W. Booth/Pinocchio per http://tvline.com/2014/12/18/once-upon-a-time-season-4-eion-bailey-returns-august-spoilers/

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From Aleana

Yay! a potrait of Ingrid, Gerta and Helga is being put up in Arendelle Castle.

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From Chris Tipton

Another episode full of epic. Unlike alot of people i really loved this half season and this was a great end. My top 5
5) Frozen gang returns to Arandelle
This was a sad moment for me. Elizabeth Lail as Anna is one of my all time favorite characters on this show and she will be sorely missed. Im so happy she had a hand in saving everyone. Anna looked absolutely glorious in her wedding gown, and i loved our one last frozen reference… CHOCOLATE!!
4) The Queens of Darkness
Can Cruella turn herself into a dalmatian on command? Maybe this is her superpower. I love Maleficents new look. She finally looks legit, i thought she looked dumb in season one. Cruella also is spot on. She already is terrifying. Those eyebrows haha. I dont care for Ursula so far but hopefully she’ll grow on me. My pet theory is Lilly is Cruella De Vil because Lilith is a demon in many stories and De vil.. Devil so theres that. One question, Rumple needs to make 2 more stops? Maleficent is a wraith beneath the clock tower… How does he think he can find her?
3)Regina and Robin/Marian
Im so proud of Regina making the right decision. It was so heart breaking at the town line, second most heart wrenching part of the show. Alot of people predicted this and it came to fruition. I felt how we got there was kind of silly and contrived but alas it is once upon a time. Also, how in the blue heck is Robin anymore qualified for dealing with the regular world than Marian? I still am pretty sure we haven’t seen the last of Robin so there’s hope yet for Regina #RIPOUTLAWQUEEN
2) The Sorcerer is the author!! This was my theory all season and i suppose i was correct it seems. Very cool seeing that room. Did Henry just go around pulling on lights till he found a secret room?
Henry, please dont call Belle Grandma ever again!! Too much awkward.
1)Rumples Story / End of Rumbelle
Another Magical plot device, but it was nice to get another Camelot reference, and it showed Belle Rumples true self so i suppose it was useful! So epic finding out the house was the sorcerer’s, which i also had predicted all along. Cool to see the walking broom again and hear the amazing sorcerer’s apprentice theme. Really Hook needs to get a bruise checked? Real subtle Rumple!! The scene in the clock tower turned observatory was really cool. Awesome effects on the stars. So glad Rumple didn’t get to kill Hook. So now for Rumple and Belle at the town line. For so long I just wanted Belle to find Rumple out, but now im not so sure. This scene was almost too much to take. It was so amazing but so soul crushing at the same time, easily the most devastating scene ive ever watched on television. I cant even believe they went through with it. Im excited to see the direction they’re going though. We all know Rumple will return return to Storybrooke somehow. #RIPRUMBELLE (although they are still legally maried) 2 ships dead in one episode!

Honerable mention goes to Regina and Rumples talk. Haven’t seen this in a long time. No surprise Rumple was on to Henry, so I suppose Henrys days as the apprentice are over.

Another epic episode. This is going to be a long 10 weeks!! 9.7/10 cannibalistic fishes

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From Angela

Jeff and Collen Roney

Big Love to you guys I enjoy listening to your podcast.

this episode pulled all the heart strings.

Here are some the things I noticed:

Belle said that she tried to change to please Rumple and fit into his life. She came to the hard and painful realization that this was not working or healthy. Belle knew Rumple was up to no good but chose to overlook the signs. I think people have the tendency to overlook unhealthy habits and faults when they are in love.

Lucky for Hook she came to her senses and really laid down the law to Rumple.

I have always considered Rumple a villian. He corrupts the innocent and the unaware with the art of the deal that is to his benefit. His artifacts that he peddles can be dangerous. He still hands them out for an I. O. U. Which leads people to a bad end.

Ask Regina-No deals with Rumple!!!

Rumple parks it in regina’s car and gives her his goodbye speech. At this point, she realizes Rumple is still a Tool. Regina gives him her patented side eye look. Their relationship is completely strange. Rumple has an affection for Regina that has yet to be explained. When regina first summoned Rumple, a comment was made that he meet her as a wee tiny baby. It makes me think Rumple choose regina to get back at Cora. I would love to see that fleshed out with Rose McGowan and or Barbara Hershey return OUAT.

Regina has her brave face on for Robin. At the end of the day she chooses to save Marion. Regina usually is by herself crying her heart out ie seasons 1-3. This time she has a shoulder to lean on “Emma”. It funny to see this relationship develop from two women trying kill each other to budding friendship.

I believe Robin will be back for his Regina. He can not stay away. I can’t wait for what is in store for Outlaw Queen 1 March.

Stay awesome guys!!!!!

Angela

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From Diane

Dear Jeff and Colleen,

In regards to last nights show I think there may be more reasons that the gauntlet led Belle to the dagger and not her.

Rumple said the gauntlet lead to the persons weakness and then added that was “usually” the thing they loved the most. That last is an assumption/belief/prejudice of Rumples. The only fact is the gauntlet leads to the persons weakness…which Belle clearly is not.

Twice in the past Rumple has referred to Belle as his strength. First was when he told Ariel to tell Belle she would find what she needed by the “strength of our love”. The second time was before he sacrificed himself and said “And I love you Belle, you made me stronger.”

Whether he loves his power or her more is something up for debate and remains to be seen, but whatever the case it doesn’t change the likelihood that the gauntlet did not lead to her because she was his strength not his weakness.

This also harkens back to exploring whether love was weakness (as per Cora) or strength (as per Emma) and on this matter they have usually shown the villains got this one wrong, it’s strength. So I think Rumple at the time equated love with weakness but that is an incorrect assumption.

Belle has a million things to be upset about, but I think the gauntlet not leading to her signified something good. Our loves should be our strengths not our weakness.

Thanks for listening, Diane

Sent from my iPhone

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From Brad

Seasonings greetings Jeff and Colleen, if you get a scent of desperation and gin in the air, hide the Reindog Lady just in case. Now onto the things I learned this week on the episode, Heroes and Villains.

1). Broomsticks can crack their
knuckles.

2). One doesn’t simply just ‘walk’ to
another realm.

3). Don’t underestimate a blissfully
ignorant wife.

4). When traveling with a woman,
one suitcase is never enough.

5). When the cat is away, the mice
don’t dust.

6). Even the Dark One needs clean
clothes.

7.) Storybrooke has an open car
door policy.

8). It’s really difficult to say goodbye
when your boyfriends annoying
wife is freezing to death.

9). Emma would not make a good
heart surgeon.

10). The word “never” actually
means “just for the next couple
of episodes” in Storybrooke.

THEORIES

I believe Cruella may posses a coat
with magic properties just like Ruby. The only difference is, Ruby’s cloak turned her back into a human but Cruella’s would turn her into an animal, such as a Dalmatian. This would be a way to give her magic while still staying true to her character.

That’s it for now.

See you in the Spring!

– Brad

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From Maii

Hey guys, sorry for my messes over the past wks I’ve been all over the place (’tis the season right?) Also my computer is in the shop again so it’s harder for me to have everything in the same place. I’m mess, adorable but a mess all the same..

I’m not gonna lie I was severly underwhelmed by the episode, most of the people I’ve talked to ended the episode the same way “That’s it?” It felt like a regular episode not a finale. Yes they wrapped things up but like I said in our own podcast it’s like they had a lot of open wounds and instead of stitching them up nicely they just put band-aids on them and called it a day.

The entire episode was completely choppy and made no sense, also Emma Swan was completely out of character. It went from point A to point C then to F then back to B and honestly why didn’t they just make this one two hours instead of Smash the Mirror? I didn’t hate the episode I was just underwhelmed and I’m very critical of the things I love.

First the bad:

Ingrid’s Spells not getting undone: This makes no sense considering all of Zelena’s spells were undone completely when she died so this just feels like a cop-out. You guys know by now that I was not okay with the way OQ was handled but this just seemed like a cop out to give them more drama. (Although they didn’t really have drama Robin waited like one ep to cheat on his wife)

Queens of Darkness: Okay I loved the Queens of Darkness don’t get me wrong. They were fantastic and Cruella is totally my new fav. The fact that they introduced them in the middle of the episode kind of stole away from the “shock” of the end (by the way was that supposed to be the huge cliffhanger? Because they completely oversold it, everyone and their mothers knew the trio was coming it wasn’t a shock) They should have waited to introduce them in the final scene.

Emma Swan: I am severly pissed as both a CS fan and a fan of both Emma AND Killian that we got no real payoff. It was a great storyline that was a great ride but blew the landing. If you’re going give us a storyline as heartwrenching as the heart storyline you have to give us a good ending.

We didn’t see how they figured it out (and that could have been easily done, you just needed to pan to Emma after Anna told them about Rumple and have her say one word “Killian”. That was all. We would have been happy instead we didn’t get anything.

You didn’t give us anything, we got a 5 second scene where she just pushed the heart in, kissed him and went to have shots with Regina? No that’s not Emma Swan. That’s not the Emma Swan that cried just seeing him in the sheriff’s office before the curse, crying because she didn’t want him hurt. This isn’t the Emma Swan that pushed him away because “I can’t loose you too.”

And here she almost lost him and she got no reaction. Even A/E admitted it was because they had no time (come on I am the biggest fan of the frozen stuff but we didn’t need that last scene and we DID NOT need that operation mongoose scene that could have easily fit into 4B)

About Operation Mongoose it makes no sense that Emma would be completely okay with it?

People are gonna tell you who you are your whole life. You just gotta punch back and say, “No, this is who I am”. You want people to look at you differently? Make them. You want to change things, you’re gonna have to go out there and change them yourself, because there are no fairy godmothers in this world.

That is from Emma herself! Back in 1×04, she knows that your life is made up of the choices you make no one is pulling the strings but you. I want the author to be like are you kidding me? I’m just record-keeper you make your own choices.

The Good:

Regina: She’s seriously annoyed me this season you kow this but I loved the scene with Rumple. As critical as I am of her character, I can admit something she has changed. She still has a loooong way to go but there has actually been progress. I was actually proud of her again this episode in regards to the OQ mess.. I LOVED that she saw through Rumple she knew he hadn’t actually changed. She did the right thing and it was great.

Queens of Darkness: Yes this is both good and bad, I didn’t like how it was handled but damn I loved the women. Cruella sassing Rumple was just glorious

“Cruella I thought I caught a whif of desperation and gin”

“Do you want me to get you a stool so you can look me in the eye when you threaten me?”

Really excited for them to come and see what kind of havok they will cause. Maleficent makes me really happy for all the possibilities (plus I’ve got this theory that we will get a CS TLK in 4B and it will be bc of a sleeping curse, Maleficent is the original owner etc if you want to read it I’ll send you guys the link =)

Belle

Belle: My only problem was that they introduced a complete deux ex machina to have her find out (and it was to introduce the trio) when there were so many more logicals ways for her to find out.

Loved the scene between Henry and Belle, we need more of them together. They have such a wonderful relationship and I loved Belle’s reaction to being called grandma.

Oh if suitcases were a TARDIS our lives would be so much easier.

Belle I am so so soooo proud of you!!! I really hope they don’t retcon this. This entire speech was everything I ever wanted for Belle, because it’s Belle realizing she’s been wrong all this time. That no matter what happens he will always choose power over her. She woke up the wool has been pulled from her eyes.

From my friend’s review:

It’s so unfortunate that a woman who’s so deserving of love and gives so much needs to be betrayed in such an awful way. It’s so unfortunate that Rumple chose power over Belle. And for one to feel they aren’t enough is the most tragic thing in our world. Emilie De Ravin broke us in that scene — we’ve never been so moved by a performance of hers before, and that very scene at the town line was De Ravin at her strongest. She brought so much heart and vulnerability into a scene that truly required a great amount of emotions. This is a scene we presume was anticipated by all — in order for Rumple and Belle’s relationship to be a healthy one, the entire truth had to be exposed. Rumple needs to choose love over power. Rumple needs to choose Belle over all other things as she’s the most precious person in his life. How heartbreaking was Belle’s breakdown as she says “I just wanted you”? It’s what moved us the most because the very promise he made to Baelfire was the same promise he was attempting to make Belle, and at the end of the day, when it comes to Rumple and most villains, it’s not about what they say, it’s about what they do. As difficult as it was for Belle, she made the right decision tonight. For the first time in forever, she chose herself. She chose to live.

The most important part of the entire scene:

“I lost myself trying to help you find yourself” You guys know I’m big on self-worth. And this is so big for my precious Belle. Again something I’ve sort of experienced (not in the length Belle has but snippets) when you keep trying to help someone and continue to put their needs above yours you start loosing little parts of yourself here and there until you’re not quite sure who you are. It’s one of the things people complained about Belle, that she didn’t have much to do not regarding Rumple.

This is Belle realizing all this and being like no this is not okay I have to put myself first, because you never will.

Colin/Killian Jones:

Can we talk about Colin? Colin Colin COLIN! If anyone ever says he’s a bad actor I’m pointing them towards this scene.

Even his hand movements were rhythmically like Rumple’s. The kicker is that Rumple is trying to sound like Hook and almost succeeds. He uses Killian’s words like alas and love but he can’t stop himself from talking in his natural rhythm. It’s a slighly slower and calmer rhythm (You can tell it’s scripted by Rumple. He pauses between words because he thinks his words are more important, There is a balanced pattern of whether the ends of his words go up or down. So Colin is speaking like Hook speaking like Rumple speaking like Hook.. It’s subtle and so there and that’s what makes it sooo good to watch. The eyes, let’s talk about the eyes in this scene. No one can do eyes like Colin seriously.

His eyes man, you can see that the lights are on but no one is home, except for the moment when Hook breaks through the dark magic to grab Emma. He’s fighting for control, actually fighting, which is more than many other characters have done. His eyes flicker to life.

Same friend’s review, she explains it in another way

First and foremost, O’Donoghue playing Killian under Rumple’s command was genius — the mannerisms were on point. It takes a lot of skill to play an already established distinct character as another character and manage to bring out the right amount of emotions. O’Donoghue imitates some of Carlyle’s most subtly brilliant tactics in the scene, and if you look out for it, there honestly aren’t enough words to describe the brilliance that’s being delivered. We can’t tell what was greater, O’Donoghue’s portrayal of a Rumple-like Killian, or Killian wanting and trying to fight through Rumple’s control by holding on to Emma. O’Donoghue’s aptitudes are immeasurable.

and one final note on Killian Jones

Killian smiling at Emma moments after getting hold of his heart. You can tell everything is still sinking in. Not moments ago he thought he would never get to see her face again, feel her lips again, touch her hair again. Now it’s all over. He’s going to live. He’s going to be with her and continue to make her smile and hold her when she needs him most. And be held by her when he needs her most. I cry.

Frozen

I’m going to miss them so much, Kristoff don’t leave me, Anna don’t leave me. Frozen Swan don’t leave me (I can’t believe they keep forcing the SQ toxic friendship when we’ve got the example of a healthy wonderful friendship in frozen swan.) I know it was time for them to go but I’m going to miss them so much, and I still can’t believe we never got a Killian/Charming/Kristoff scene..

We did see Charming he had 1 line in the entire episode “Rumplestilskin” that was it.

I loved the chocolate scene but I feel like that scene was surplus? We could have gotten it as a deleted scene? I think we should have gotten a CS scene where they actually had a meaninful conversation and it would have been perfect (it didn’t even have to be a long scene)

Captain Swan:

You know my feelings over this but I did like the tiny scene we got. Those two idiots are so in love with each other you can see it in their eyes and it’s beautiful. Because Killian is so happy to have her back, he didn’t think he would ever have her back in his arms and now she’s there and he’s never letting go. Also we got Emma holding his shiny completely red heart in her hands and that was gorgeous.

I am actually excited for 4B even if it doesn’t exactly seem that way hehehe, hope you guys have a lovely christmas (or other holiday) and a wonderful new year,

Love, Maii

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Heroes and Villains Review – First Thoughts

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Episode Name: Heroes and Villains

Episode Number: 261

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Shattered Sight Further Review

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Episode Name: Shattered Sight Further Review

Episode Number: 260

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From Aleana

AWESOMENESS!! Ingrid you beautiful soul.

– Ingrid wondering around Boston in the past reminded me of Enchanted.

Lol, at her telling of the sorceress, her name is Emma Swan! Wow, Gold wants to take Henry and Belle to New York. Lol, at Kristoff doubting his haircut. yes, I have missed you too Evil Queen :)

Ingrid protecting Emma was so nice and telling her what Kevin is afraid of, she does care. Lol, someone slip me a poison apple and put me out of my misery. Hahaha, at Charming telling Kristoff why are you selling ice when the whole place is Frozen :) The entire bantering in the Sheriff’s stations is gold! The ribbons are flowing with love unequal, wow! Loving the Galavant and Into the Woods promos airing during OUAT :) Also the Fresh of the Boat one too, I am so excited for that show.

– There was a Dalmatian toy, Cruella hint :)

Those flashbacks were awesome, loved that Ingrid wanted to be a big sister to Emma, her intentions seemed genuine and Emma loved her. Emma really angered Regina but the ribbons are gone, yes! Haha, a dirty pirate, I bathe frequently. Lol, Henry. I wish I could poof home like Harry Potter too Emma :)

Oh God No! A traumatic experience, Ingrid holding Emma’s hand was scary. I can tell she just wanted to help her come to realisation with her powers, when she was crying out that was heartbreaking. Haha, magic is too good for you, I want to watch you bleed, the Evil Queen is back. Lol, at ‘I don’t know who you are but why don’t you go back to where you came from.

“I pick flowers, I talk to birds. Know what else? I KILL. still want to hold hands and sing ‘Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah?” this is too funny :)

Ingrid is in Storybrooke! Get in your head lady, were not your sisters, we don’t love you. The funny thing about time is that were romanticized the good times, love this quote. Magic can’t create love, I know you have forgotten but you did love me once.

Oh god, Emma and Ingrid meeting at the Ice Cream shop, are you following me, lol. Sheriff Graham, memories :(

Ingrid took her memories away with Pabbie’s rock. At least she gave her Rocky Road, love Elizabeth Mitchell’s laugh :)

Hahaha, careful of the stroller. The sword fight between Regina and Snow was EPIC!! Do Not Wake My Baby! Damn, they are getting thrown around like crazy! Anna found her parents letter, yes! Lol at Anna, I’ll be right back, stay here, he cant move Anna :)

Anna same to save the day! Elsa and Anna, we were wrong to conceal her powers, it happened before and I was wrong to conceal them (Conceal don’t feel, don’t let it show. let it go :)) . I was fearful, I let that fear hide me, I should have celebrated her. Please return my sisters memories. Release her, please tell her I love her and I am sorry, I would give anything to hold her hands one more time. I had a feeling the letter would be something along these lines. Anna, family never gives up on each other.

Gerta, what have I done, I need to reverse this, DON’T KILL YOURSELF INGRID!

THIS Scene!! Incredible, what courage, Ingrid loved her sisters, all she wanted was love, the letter gave her that, the sisters running on the field… I love the score playing, such beauty. Elizabeth Mitchell, you stole and broke my heart. It’s snowing! Regina: what am I wearing, all the laughs :)

Oh no! Rumple wants like world domination or something. The promo! A Dalmatian is here OH MY GOD! We will be the victors, Ursula, Cruella and Maleficent and she looks like the movie!! I cant wait!!!

My theory is Belle knows what Rumple is up to and she going to stop him and somehow release everyone who was suck into the hat because I believe Maleficent Ursula Cruella Deville are also in the hat and they are going to be the next villains they face

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From Chris Tipton

Whoooow doctor. Every episode keeps getting better somehow. I think this may be my favorite episode of the series, top 5 for sure!! AMAZING!!
And for my top 5
5.) Ingrid and the “psychic”
How hilarious was it when she called her sorceress and she totally had Ingrid going? Ill tell you. VERY hilarious!! Did Ingrid leave that jewel with the “charlatan”? Nice freebie

4.) Emma and Ingrid’s Backstory
Cool to see more of this plot filled in. How did Ingrid adopt Emma in the first place? It was so funny how she manipulated Emma with Kevin and the spiders, he was a real jerkwad. Too bad they didnt show him getting failed on by them. Nice continuity with Emma causing lights to flicker because of her magic pretty much her whole life. Now it makes more sense to me why when her magic was out of control, all the electric stuff was going crazy. It makes me appreciate that plot a little more. I couldn’t believe Ingrid put Emma in front of a car, too insane even for her. Hurtful for Emma to think only a nutjob would want to adopt her. Its sad how it turned out because they really had a nice relationship going. I’m glad it actually made sense how Emma met Ingrid in season 1 and lost her memories. I just really want to know what happened with her when everyone was taken back in Pans curse. Maybe she got out of town before it got there because she could leave. Also Emma saying “what is that your pet rock” absolutely killed me

3.) Rumple’s plan
I’m so excited to see how this unfolds. He literally threatened the whole world in this episode!! Im starting to think he will kill hook. It really seems that’s where they’re going. I again expected Belle to overhear Rumple but I suppose she was too busy sleeping.

2.)Everyone under the spell
Snowing’s interaction was amazing. Very nice callbacks to season one when they were falling in love. When snow said that she was a murderer and she wasn’t sorry for killing “the evil queens mommy”, it was chilling and horrifying. One of my favorite moments of the episode. Anna being hurt by Kristoffs words was heart breaking. Shes absolutely adorkable!! Grumpy and the rest of the dwarves fighting was just so satisfying, also Granny and her crossbow!! I lost it when Will tried to hit Hook and missed and ran into the wall, so epic!! I have to wonder if there were any fatalities with all the arrows flying around!! Lastly, of course Snow and Reginas “epic battle” i feel like all oncers have been waiting 4 years for this. So good!! Ginny plays a great evil Snow… I WAS TEEEENN!!

1.) The Resolutions
Emma figuring out Regina’s hate was an antidote to the love of the ribbons was clever and a satisfying end to the ribbons.
The resolution of what was in the bottle was equally as satisfying. I really didn’t see this coming. Who knew Gerda kept those memories and would want everyone to get them back? Anna and Kristoff on the beach was so cute… I love you, your amazing, your unconscious!!
Finally of course, the snow queens resolution. This had to be the best ending to a villain. Ingrid sacrificing herself for everyone after how evil she was, i cant even put into words, how amazing it was. Here at the end and knowing her whole story, shes definitely the best villain yet . This was such an amazing ending. Regina and Snowing laughing about Regina wearing the evil queen outfit was great. Rumple walking down the street putting on his coat to end the episode was just unnerving. Next week is going to be phenomenal!!

7/5 pet rocks
-Chris Tipton

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From Trace

Hi Colleen, Jeff and all Oncers, (I’ll stay consistant and give Colleen top billing again J),

I liked this episode very much, one of the best! If I had any negative comments it would be I didn’t get enough! I wanted more shattered sight badness. More angry dwarfs, more granny with a crossbow, and a re-do for Will Scarlet, that was a bit wonky. I laughed out loud so many times…”what am I wearing?” classic. The Snow and Regina fight was hilarious. I really did want to see Robin and Regina together under the spell, and too bad this wasn’t the 2 hour episode, the whole episode felt a bit rushed is all I’m saying. R and R will have to resolve the Marianne thing this week, get ready Eagle-Reagle fans, not going to end well for that ship I fear. What a beautiful and epic sacrifice by Ingrid. It was visually stunning, and add her dialogue along with the fantastic music…wow, I watched it several times. I think by far the best ending for any villain thus far in the series. She got the love of her sisters she always wanted-awesome. Elizabeth Lail and Elizabeth Mitchell deserve a standing ovation for their character portrayals this year, amazing acting. Did Rumple drug Belle or was she just reaallly tired? Ugh…Rumple! I need for Belle to find out and have the truth be told! Looking forward to the “Trio of Terror” and I think they are teaming up to get the hat from Rumple, that is my guess for why these ladies are here. Villains love power. And, I want Emma to help Hook get his heart back…that would be a sweet ending to have Emma save her love instead of lose him this time. Love your podcast-Big Love to everyone! Can’t wait till Sunday. Trace

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From Brad

Greetings Jeff and Colleen, make sure to cover your eyes because that ain’t snow falling from the sky. Here are the things I learned this week on the episode, Shattered Sight.

#1. Ingrid wasn’t falling for the old
“basement of the Alamo”
routine.

#2. Even Happy has a dark side.

#3. Carrot sherbet is an excellent
memory enhancer.

#4. There’s a right and wrong way to
swaddle.

#5. Updating the sheriff station has
been fast tracked.

#6. Hook may wear the same outfit
everyday but he’s still the
cleanest pirate in town.

#7. Dopey loves him some
snowflakes.

#8. Will Scarlet definitely needs to
take some self defense classes.

#9. Never wake a sleeping baby
unless you’re prepared to die.

#10. Now we know the real reason
Whale has been keeping a low
profile this season.

OBSERVATIONS:

SHATTERED SIGHT

Although the spell made for some hilarious moments with Regina and the Charming’s, overall I was disappointed that so many people were immune. This could have pushed the story forward revealing secrets and inner feelings. I think leaving out Hook, Rumple, Belle, Blue and Robin was a big mistake. It took 10 episodes to build to this dramatic and epic spell but the whole thing felt boxed in and uneventful. Just letting one person find Gold’s dagger or having someone like Blue out on a rampage would have been amazing! I also felt we were cheated out of a much needed interaction with Belle confronting Gold under the spell.

GOLD’S HAPPY ENDING

At this moment, the show is on the verge of something amazing if they actually allow Gold to free himself of the dagger and leave the town with his magic. If Gold has given up being a better man, let him go all out! LET GOLD WIN!!!! That way when he finally meets his demise, it will be so much more glorious! Push him to edge of ultimate power, THEN, break him. Once a man has given up all his morales to be the most powerful person in the world, there’s nothing left for him. All he will have is the empty feeling of everything he has lost in order to become that man. To make Rumple lose they must first let him win.

SAME ENDING, DIFFERENT VILLAIN

The show seems to be following the same pattern with it’s villains ever since season 2. What do Cora, Greg, Tamara, Peter Pan, Wicked Witch and the Snow Queen all have in common? They’re all dead!!!
Hopefully 4B is going to give us a fresh and new conclusion other than death.

EVIL REGINA

At the end of last season, fans were going crazy about Regina possibly turning evil again. When she said “I missed you” after changing into the Evil Queen’s attire, for a second I thought there may be some residual effects. Could you imagine Adam and Eddy releasing a still picture of Regina as the evil queen at the beginning of this season? The way Regina and the Charming’s started laughing after the spell was broken was genius! It was the perfect response to people who thought Regina was going to give up everything after all the progress she had made. Regina this season has been an A+ for me.

GOLD THE COWARD

When Gold locked up Belle he said it was to protect himself. Wow, what a coward! He couldn’t even hear what truth would come out of Belle’s
mouth about him. Snow and Charming locked themselves in a cell right next to each other, Anna stayed right by Kristoff’s side while handcuffed to a desk. But the most powerful man in Storybrooke didn’t want to be anywhere near his woman when the spell was cast.

INGRID A VILLAIN?

I’ve loved Ingrid through this whole season and as you know, I never really perceived her as a villain. Her story arch was amazing and pulled on the heart strings in just the right places. I just wish she didn’t have to die. The scenes with young Emma were some of her best scenes this season. I really would have liked to see more of her in Storybrooke as Ingrid and not as the Snow Queen.

THE CLAW

When young Emma is using the machine to try and grab the Dalmatian, it reminded me of the claw from Toy Story. There even appeared to be green aliens mixed in with the plush animals.

BURNING QUESTIONS

How did Ingrid keep the ice cream cold before magic? When she first showed up in Storybrooke there was no magic yet. They used it as a plot device to figure out Ingrid was the Snow Queen but if she was at Any Given Sundae when Emma first came to town it doesn’t make any sense. Much like how the Storybrooke Animal Shelter just disappeared. “Shhhhhhhh, maybe the fans won’t notice”.

Did the preview for the winter finale give too much away? I realize the Frozen storyline is wrapping up and they want to keep viewers interested but loyal fans will still watch without revealing major spoilers. I also understand that this information was on the internet long before this preview but do you feel this takes away an element of surprise for people who try to stay spoiler free? We know they can keep a secret as we saw with the Elsa reveal.

– Brad
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